On Thursday, October 10, 2024 at 2:28:19 PM UTC-6 Alan Grayson wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2024 at 2:11:15 PM UTC-6 John Clark wrote: On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 3:27 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: *> Think about it. Suppose you've set "the thing" up for measurement, maybe you've even written S's equation in your notebook and solved it, but you still haven't actually DONE the measurement. So it's in your imagination* *It makes no difference if it's in your imagination or not. If there is a solution for Schrodinger's equation that an electron is going to go left then it will go left regardless of if you solve the equation for it or not, but that most certainly will NOT be the only solution of Schrodinger's equation for that electron. There may also be a solution for the electron going right, so if you perform the experiment there will be a version of you observing the electron going to the right just as there is a version of you observing the electron going to the left. But there will be no version of you observing the electron turning into a proton because there is no solution of Schrodinger's equation for that. In Many Worlds consciousness and imagination have nothing to do with it.* *You've gone off the reservation. Now actual measurement is irrelevant, imagination is enough for the quantum states to be manifested, and you claim none of this matters. AG * *And all of this is in principle untestable and you call it science. OMG, AG * q *of what you're going do, AND, miraculously, "the thing" is in all quantum states satisfied by S's equation. QED, AG* John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/cf1f2dda-3dc0-415b-a277-da0d85b1fd1bn%40googlegroups.com.
