On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 4:48 PM John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 9:47 AM Giulio Prisco <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Thank you for sharing John. I'm already persuaded that local realism >> is untenable, but it is always good to see more experimental evidence. > > > Actually what they've proven is that local realism is untenable in a > deterministic universe; that's why this experiment doesn't rule out objective > collapse theories, they are local and realistic but not deterministic. You > can't have determinism and localism and realism, you've got to get rid of at > least one of those 3 things. Today nobody knows for sure which one of the 3 > needs to go to the chopping block, my guess would be realism and that's why > I'm a Many Worlds fan, but I could be wrong. >
I chop (Laplacian) determinism and localism. Non-locality kills Laplacian determinism but it is not incompatible with global determinism. I keep realism in the sense that something exists and can be known better. G. > John K Clark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "extropolis" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/extropolis/CAJPayv0VCEeiDOyDD9-iwRenUiN3yQGizXCDAUWY3jvy%3Dh2psw%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAKTCJyfF1svsmOD1RK60BEvqPvC93kmJ0Tnib4k3VHqc2j2Ccg%40mail.gmail.com.
