Thank you for sharing John. I'm already persuaded that local realism is untenable, but it is always good to see more experimental evidence. G.
On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 2:44 PM John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > > In the August 7, 2024 issue of the journal Physical Review Letters is the > strongest evidence ever reported that Einstein's dream of a quantum theory > that is deterministic, realistic and local is dead; at least one of those > three things must be false. They use something called "Hardy's Violation" > that is a slight variation of Bell's Inequality that is a little easier for > experimenters to use. > > By the way, when they say "local realism" is violated they are assuming a > deterministic universe, that's why Objective Collapse Theories are still in > the running for the title of the correct fundamental description of nature, > they are not deterministic. Many Worlds is also still in the running because > it is not realistic, and Pilot Wave Theory it's still in the running because > it is not local. As for Copenhagen, it's basically "shut up and calculate" > so it can't win or lose because it's not playing the game. Einstein is the > only clear loser in all this. > > Loophole-free test of local realism via Hardy’s violation > > John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis > edd > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv3KqyGuc-DtydFpuE5FGG_Pioi6e_9RqhbsKjL9pOC7nQ%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAKTCJycUxN9%2BpuzBvioguOmAc-%2BpiBZc%3DrZOnVy2H_F7pgPB4w%40mail.gmail.com.

