On Friday, November 1, 2024 at 4:23:46 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:

On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 6:07 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:

>>> *Wheeler's answer explains nothing,*


*>> I think it explains a great deal, especially considering the fact that 
it's only 13 words long. *


*> Wheeler is just translating EFE, Einstein's Field Equation, into words.*


*Just?!  Well OK, if you have a profound intuitive understanding of four 
dimensional non-Euclidean tensor calculus and can just visualize it in your 
head then Wheeler's words are unnecessary, in fact everybody's words are 
unnecessary including mine. Are you telling us you have such an 
understanding?*


If the curvature terms are on one side of equation, and matter/energy terms 
on the other, it doesn't take much understanding to reach Wheeler's 
conclusion. AG 


*> Without some rule for the emergence of an event, aka a cause, there is 
no way to understand it.*


*Yes obviously. But if you know that something is a brute fact then there 
is nothing more to understand about it, so asking "why" it is a brute fact 
would be a silly question.  And if it's not a brute fact then to understand 
it you need to find its cause, and then you'll want to find the cause of 
the cause etc; And then the "why" questions either go on forever or they 
don't and if they don't then they must terminate with a brute fact.*


*John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*
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