On Thursday, October 31, 2024 at 1:44:15 PM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:

On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 1:37 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:

> *Wheeler's answer explains nothing,*


*I think it explains a great deal, especially considering the fact that 
it's only 13 words long. *


*Wheeler is just translating EFE, Einstein's Field Equation, into words. I 
have no objection if you like it, but IMO it adds nothing, explains nothing 
beyond what the equation states. AG *


*>  **just repeating what EFE says**, *


*Maybe, maybe not. Google says EFE is a Spanish news agency, but I don't 
know if that's what you meant. And by the way, IHA.*

*>There could be an unlimited sequence of "why's", *

*Yes there could be.*

*> or the sequence might terminate in profound knowledge, but likely NOT in 
an event without a cause, *


*That doesn't make any sense. If the sequence terminates in X then wouldn't 
you want to know WHY it terminates in X ?  If X is "NOT in an event without 
a cause" then you'd want to know what sort of thing DID cause X, and how 
and why it did so; therefore the sequence of "why" questions does NOT 
terminate with X.*


*Since we're nowhere near what we're speculating about, this train of 
thought is useless. However, I affirm that an irreducible event is 
unintelligible to human understanding. Without some rule for the emergence 
of an event, aka a cause, there is no way to understand it. Some people 
think probability can be conceived of as a cause. I disagree with this 
conclusion. AG*


*John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*
 

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