On Monday, December 2, 2024 at 9:19:39 AM UTC-7 John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Dec 2, 2024 at 10:53 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: *> Who claims conscious objects obey different laws than non-conscious objects? * *Anyone who claims that an observation or a measurement causes the collapse of Schrodinger's quantum wave, that's who. * https://www.google.com/search?q=laws+of+physics+for+conscious+entities&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS922US922&oq=laws+of+physics+for+conscious+entities&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigAdIBCTMxNDE1ajBqN6gCCLACAQ&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Currently, within the established scientific understanding, there are no distinct "laws of physics for conscious entities" as consciousness is not considered a fundamental physical property, meaning it is not directly governed by the known laws of physics; however, some theories attempt to bridge the gap between consciousness and physics by exploring concepts like quantum mechanics and emergent properties, suggesting that consciousness could arise from complex interactions within a system governed by existing physical laws, but not directly described by them. *I'm sure the book was a best seller, in the fiction department. AG * *I'd ask you to read "The Ghost In The Atom" or Sean Carroll's even better book "Something Deeply Hidden", **however I know there's not a snowball's chance in hell of you ever reading either one, much less reading any of their technical research papers; I doubt you even read my short post. But of course that will not prevent you from expressing very strong opinions regarding the quality, or lack thereof, of those two excellent physicist's work.* *John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>* r5r -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/6d0735dc-ff37-4318-9718-e8b7dddd5447n%40googlegroups.com.
