On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 12:16 AM smitra <[email protected]> wrote: > On 24-11-2024 05:04, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > > If QM were intrinsically local, then you would be able to give this > > local account of the correlations. > > You are manifestly unable to do this. > > It's obvious from the time evolution specified by the local Hamiltonian. >
You have tried this approach before. You seem unable to realize that that is just a restatement of your position. And it is that position that is in question. Restating your conclusion is not an argument or an account of anything. Invoking authorities to get a simple fact about Bell's inequalities > cleared up, i.e. that it does not imply that QM is non-local, is quite > appropriate. You have to make sure that you quote authorities that actually know something. You made the extraordinary claim that Bell proved that QM > is non-local, which is plain nonsense. If it were nonsense, you would be able to give a clear demonstration of a local account of the Bell correlations. This you have repeatedly failed to do, so I call out your nonsense. If it were true, then you > wouldn't have professors with deep knowledge of QM claiming that QM is > local. > Not everyone gets it right. People who believe in MWI tend to claim that QM is local, but then, usually only in the context of the theory of many worlds. They, too, have never been able to establish this. If they had, you could give this argument. But even then, Bell's theorem proves beyond any doubt that there are inequalities that any local theory must satisfy. Experiment, as well as QM, shows that these inequalities are violated. Indeed, Clauser, Aspect, and Zeiling were recently awarded the Nobel prize for establishing this fact. QM has been shown to be necessarily non-local. Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLTW%2BRc5Zo47qrbyfHgkPgdzHnOeLwQvFx%2BpKPmJsc1-Jg%40mail.gmail.com.
