Le dim. 15 déc. 2024, 14:31, Alan Grayson <[email protected]> a écrit :
> > > On Sunday, December 15, 2024 at 6:20:47 AM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > > On Sunday, December 15, 2024 at 5:41:54 AM UTC-7 John Clark wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 11:01 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: > > * > What bothers me is the disagreement between frames about fitness or > not, and why the alleged lack of simultaneity resolves the apparent > contradiction. AG * > > > *In this thought experiment I think even you would agree that no matter > how fast or slow the car is going there will always be times when the front > of the car is in the garage, and times when the back of the car is in the > garage; so the question of the day is " Is there any frame of reference in > which those two events occur SIMULTANEOUSLY?" Einstein's answer is "yes", > provided the car is moving fast enough. And as proof that Einstein's answer > was correct, in this thought experiment, above a certain speed, there is NO > frame of reference in which there is a car shaped hole in the back door of > the garage. * > > *John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis > <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>* > > > No. Above a certain speed, since the car is length contracted from the pov > of the garage frame, the car will fit in the garage, and waiting some time, > then being in a different reference frame, it could hit the back door. AG > > > But the real question is this; if from the pov of the car frame, there is > a v such that the car never fits in the garage for this v and greater, why > is it claimed that lack of simultaneity between frames solves the problem, > since we're only considering simultaneity in garage frame where the car > fits? AG > > eua > > It's crazy you're still on this... wtf is your definition of fits in which doesn't involve simultaneously having rear and front of the car in the garage? Quentin -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/6c479509-2d32-4539-9c89-b675e51001bcn%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/6c479509-2d32-4539-9c89-b675e51001bcn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAMW2kArsdo9qBuSDgaMBeaBeQU9LA93NcNMT%2BqkX6W5YeOGHqQ%40mail.gmail.com.
