On Monday, March 10, 2025 at 6:43:21 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 2:28 AM Alan Grayson <agrays...@gmail.com> wrote: *> without a definition of consciousness, I see no basis for claiming either is conscious.* *I have 4 questions for you: * *1) Why do you think definitions are better than examples? * *2) Where do you think lexicographers obtained the knowledge they needed to write the definitions that are in their dictionaries? * *3) Are definitions of words also made of words, and do those words in the definition also have definitions made of words, **and do those words in the definition of the definition of words also have definitions made of words, and ....?* *4) What is the definition of "definition"? * *John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>* Maybe "definitions" is the wrong way to look at the problem. It's really the unsolved mind-body problem. How does chemistry give rise to consciousness? If you can't explain that, you can't say that AI is conscious. Maybe you can't even assert that any of us are conscious. AG d4w -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/51110d3c-8634-4da4-87e8-b7f78e7d1a12n%40googlegroups.com.