On 3/13/2025 6:02 AM, John Clark wrote:
/> You claim to know they are intelligent by their response. But
you wouldn't say that if the response didn't match the motivation./
*I understand the motivation of a modern large language modelabout as
well as I understand the motivation of one of my fellow human beings.
I'm sure there have been times when you saw somebody do something very
strange so you asked "why did you do that?" and the response you
received you did not consider satisfactory. Sometimes the only
response possible was "because I wanted to" because the person is
unable to explain the detailed pattern of neuron firings that caused
him to do what he did. Exactly the same thing could be said about a
modern AI.
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But now you've elided any reference to intelligence. Yet you wouldn't
infer that the person was not conscious, simply because he couldn't
explain his action. My point is that "conscious" means different things,
or may be said to have many components. One of them is making and
carrying out plans, which you see as intelligent action. But you must
know from your own experience that this involves imagining the
consequence of sequences of action; that's what it means "to plan". And
that imagination is a kind of consciousness, which necessarily entails
internal representations of the world. Do you think an AI could do it
some other way, that would look the same to an observer?
Brent*
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