found it: http://www106.pair.com/rhp/free-software-ui.html
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 20:31, Andrew Cowie wrote: > Hey Jeff, > > On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 11:02, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: > > there is a huge discussion about this on the GNOME Usability list. > > I *agree* with the GNOME usability guidelines. I know they've been > controversial. > > > I > > think Havoc Pennington wrote up a document on it, I would refer you to > > it but don't recall the url. > > [I haven't read Havoc's document; Jeff Waugh mentioned it a couple weeks > ago. I've been looking for it. I have read the Human Inteface > guidelines, but that's not the one you're talking about, is it?] > > There is, IMHO, a fundamental difference between presenting a > bewildering array of features for the average user, and making the power > accessible to someone who wants it. > > I believe in what Ximian (and RedHat and now Sun and...) specifically > and GNOME generally are after. I just wanted to encourage everyone to > keep in mind that there *are* reasons not to just nuke features out of > hand. > > Make the defaults the simplest, most usable things you can think of. > Hide the advanced features if you will. Hell, make it so they can only > be controlled by editing text files, rather than UI <shudder>. > > But the point I made about "the power under the hood" and why it is we > all dislike Windows stands. I don't <gasp, omigod he's actually saying > it on an OpenSource mailing list!> actually dislike Windows. It works > most of the time! I hate Outlook, Word and friends because, so often, > they decide what I want for me, instead of letting me choose. I prefer > Un*x, Free and Open software because I can almost always make it do what > I want *the way I want it*. > > -- > > Enter the world of complex Graphical User Interfaces intended for a > world-wide audience. > > There is, of course, a balance to be struck. The default action SHOULD > be to make an intelligent, reasoned, highly-usable choice and just Make > It Work. Applause for that. > > Evolution is one of the best Open programs I have ever used. It is > loaded with features, and does many things very intelligently. And > despite the fact there are plenty of things it doesn't do that I "need" > I'm sticking with it most of all because I *do* feel that the > development team listens. Sure, you're grouchy most of the time, but > once in a while you do listen. :) > > -- > > It would just be nice if the itch can be scratched. That is, after all, > what moves us forward. > > Well, that and a healthy dose of Venture Capital. > > Andrew > > _______________________________________________ > evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution -- Jeffrey Stedfast Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ximian.com _______________________________________________ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
