On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 01:41, Tony Earnshaw wrote: > ons, 2003-02-12 kl. 09:55 skrev Bill Hartwell: > > > > Please stop Ccing me. I do not wish to be a part of this discussion any > > > longer. I have unsubscribed from the list for this very reason. > > > Gee, isn't it nice to know that one of the developers cares so much > > about the program's users that he stomps off in a huff because we dare > > to disagree with him? > > He always did that. This time his boss hung him out and that was neither > conducive to sympathy for the boss, nor for Ximian. That's how Jeff felt > too. You may say what you like, but the fellow works his arse off trying > to please people - can't be a great job. As someone else said, the best > thing Ettore could have done, would have been to take him aside for a > pep talk on how to cope with difficult people.
Egads, I really don't think Ettore was very hard on him! Did I miss a message from him on this thread? He just explained that Jeff's opinion was not the be-all, end-all when it came to development decisions, and politely offered a compromise solution to the users who had gotten aggravated and emotional about this whole thing. I doubt Jeff left because of that. I presume he left because he got tired of the ridiculous, childish debate that he had been participating in. In any case, Jeff has been offending people on this list, in Ximian's name, for as long as I can remember, and several users have stomped off in a huff and said they were going to stop using Evolution because of things he has said. You've been around for while Tony, I know you've seen this too. Users can be as rude as they like, they are only making themselves look bad. Users can stomp off in and say "I don't want to play with you" and they won't be missed much (though if they leave because they were insulted by someone at Ximian, that's bad for everyone who wants Ximian to prosper). The Ximian management HAS taken Jeff aside and talked to him privately in the past, at least once, I believe, at my prompting, after another, milder flamewar (at which time I was told the way he expresses himself on the list had already been something they'd discussed with him before). I really don't feel right talking about this publicly, since if Jeff is really off the list, it feels like talking about someone behind his back. But seriously, folks, Ettore has always been polite, helpful and diplomatic. Jeff probably writes great code, is often helpful and polite if it's a topic he isn't excited about, but diplomatic? Rarely. Like it or not, Jeff is one of the major developers of Evolution, and it wouldn't be what it is if he hadn't been a part of it. I love Evolution, and I'm glad that Jeff has helped create it. I've also been told that he's a really nice guy in real life. I hope he continues to contribute his skills to it, but learns to keep his strong personal opinions off of public forums like this. Nobody but the flamers themselves like flamewars. Meanwhile, life goes on... Eric -- This message was created in a Microsoft-free computing environment. _______________________________________________ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
