Smoothwall (http://www.smoothwall.org/) and an old desktop machine that was
going to be retired, but has more then enough horsepower to run this and the
traffic it sees.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
Anderson
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 2:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Clicking on messages with large attachments...

I don't want to get too OT right now, but what are you (and everybody else
listening) using as their VPN gateway (and/or Firewall)?  I fell in love
with ISA Server - but honestly, I don't know if I am using the best
solution.  I know there are plenty of hardware "appliance style"
firewalls out there.

It would be nice to find out what all the other IT guys suggest.

Thanks for the info,

Mike 

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 4:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Clicking on messages with large attachments...


Generally I prefer VPN fwiw... My users often need access to internal
resources and applications in addition to just e-mail and with outlook
2003's cached mode, the overhead is mostly transparent. Course, almost
all of my users have high speed access at home, and those who don't
complain about everything in general being slow.  


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-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 4:12 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Clicking on messages with large attachments...
Subject: RE: Clicking on messages with large attachments...


I'd like to also add (maybe this should be a new thread) - what is the
preferred setup these days when it comes to Remote Mail?

Yes, there is OWA, and also VPN with the native Outlook Exchange Client
(which we use right now)...

But, you can also (using ISA Server) publish the RPC, so the users can
still get into the Exchange Server without having to establish a VPN
Connection.  I know that lots will disagree with that method, as the
data is not encrypted, but there is SOOO much overhead with using the
VPN - I'd prefer to use all the raw Internet bandwidth available to the
user and get the max speed to the Exchange Box (which is behind the ISA
Server obviously).

Any more ideas or input on this topic?

Thanks again,

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Anderson
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 4:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Clicking on messages with large attachments...


I've never been able to get OST to work reliably.

Believe me, I'd give anything to get OST working well - because my users
get so angry when they can't get an Internet connection.  It will
download SOME files, but not all - and I truly have looked (and applied)
the proper settings when it comes to downloading which folders they
want, etc.

Going back to your previous question, YES everyone runs their preview
window all the time.  It's such a wonderful convenience (for obvious
reasons) - but it would be nice to have the ability to randomly click
around their message list, and look at the message bodies w/o having to
worry about the attachment problem.  It would be nice to be to
Right-Click on it, and select "download attachment" or something like
that.

Are there any facilities in Outlook 2003 for something like this?

Thanks for the rapid response - that is most appreciated.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Fyodorov, Andrey FTL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 3:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Clicking on messages with large attachments...


Or you can use OST.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Fyodorov, Andrey FTL
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 4:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Clicking on messages with large attachments...


There is also a "Remote Mail" feature of Outlook that allows to download
the headers of messages and then mark the ones that you want to
download.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
Anderson
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 4:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Clicking on messages with large attachments...


Hello All,

I am sure you have all run into this problem, but is there a resolution?

We are running Exchange 2000 w/Outlook 2000 clients AND Microsoft's ISA
& VPN Solution.

When the user is remoted in using a VPN, simply clicking on a message
with a 1 Meg attachment will cause the system to hang for as long as it
takes to bring it over the wire.  This is ridiculous - even if it was an
accident, or it happens to be the 1st message in their unread messages
list (which newest ones are always on top) - they are literally stuck
sitting there, while this huge attachment (which they may not even want
to open) comes over the wire.

Is there some setting inside of Outlook, where you can click on a
message, but NOT have any attachments automatically brought over??? This
would be a God-Send if I could get that to work.  If all my users get
their way (due to their frustrations with this issue), we will be back
using Outlook Express, using POP3 - which is an terrible solution (from
an IT guys standpoint).

Any ideas, that could help me deal with this problem?

Thanks in advance,

Mike


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