::concurs:: 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 11:31 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: SPF Warning
> 
> ::nods sagely:: 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Chris Scharff
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 8:31 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: SPF Warning
> 
> They're talking about Sender-ID of which SPF is a part (or 
> SPF v2 is a part), but the underlying concern with regards to 
> technical concerns, lack of experience and lack of consensus 
> (not from that particular working group
> necessarily) apply to SPF. IMO
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce- 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin 
> Blackstone 
> > Posted At: Thursday, September 02, 2004 10:25 PM Posted To: swynk
> > Conversation: SPF Warning
> > Subject: RE: SPF Warning
> > 
> > So when they talk about this, are they talking about just Sender ID,
> or
> > SPF
> > records, or are they both the same???
> > Questions, questions.
> > 
> > PS, I don't like the idea of MS licensing the caller ID 
> technology at
> all.
> > It should be open source if it has to be called anything at all....
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Chris
> > Scharff
> > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 7:57 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: SPF Warning
> > 
> > Well, looks like the Apache Software Foundation might have 
> some issues 
> > with Sender-ID licensing....
> > 
> > Apache projects unable to deploy Sender ID 
> > http://apache.org/foundation/docs/sender-id-position.html
> > 
> > And they echo some of the same concerns I raised with SPF 
> (part of the 
> > Sender-ID standard)... man those guys are smart.
> > 
> > > I have little
> > > confidence that folks who are unable to understand what a 
> PTR record
> > is
> > > or that an Mx record must be an A record are going to choose the
> > correct
> > > settings for their SPF records.
> > 
> > http://apache.org/foundation/docs/sender-id-position.html
> >   * We are also concerned by the rush to adopt this 
> standard in spite
> of
> >     technical concerns, lack of experience in the field, 
> and a lack of
> >     consensus in the IETF MARID WG.
> > 
> > 
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