>From the Captain Obvious category: 

Spammers using sender authentication too, study says
Sender ID technology may not be effective at stopping spam, CipherTrust
survey finds
http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/08/31/HNspammerstudy_1.html

"A check of approximately two million e-mail messages sent to
CipherTrust customers between May and July showed that only about 5
percent of all incoming messages came from domains that published a
valid sender authentication record using Sender Policy Framework (SPF)
or a newer standard, backed by Microsoft, called Sender ID. Within that
5 percent, slightly more is spam than legitimate e-mail, said Paul
Judge, chief technology officer at the Atlanta company." 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Sojka
> Posted At: Friday, September 03, 2004 8:44 AM
> Posted To: swynk
> Conversation: SPF Warning
> Subject: RE: SPF Warning
> 
> ::concurs::
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
> > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 11:31 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: SPF Warning
> >
> > ::nods sagely::
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Chris Scharff
> > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 8:31 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: SPF Warning
> >
> > They're talking about Sender-ID of which SPF is a part (or
> > SPF v2 is a part), but the underlying concern with regards to
> > technical concerns, lack of experience and lack of consensus
> > (not from that particular working group
> > necessarily) apply to SPF. IMO
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin
> > Blackstone
> > > Posted At: Thursday, September 02, 2004 10:25 PM Posted To: swynk
> > > Conversation: SPF Warning
> > > Subject: RE: SPF Warning
> > >
> > > So when they talk about this, are they talking about just Sender
ID,
> > or
> > > SPF
> > > records, or are they both the same???
> > > Questions, questions.
> > >
> > > PS, I don't like the idea of MS licensing the caller ID
> > technology at
> > all.
> > > It should be open source if it has to be called anything at
all....
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > Chris
> > > Scharff
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 7:57 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: SPF Warning
> > >
> > > Well, looks like the Apache Software Foundation might have
> > some issues
> > > with Sender-ID licensing....
> > >
> > > Apache projects unable to deploy Sender ID
> > > http://apache.org/foundation/docs/sender-id-position.html
> > >
> > > And they echo some of the same concerns I raised with SPF
> > (part of the
> > > Sender-ID standard)... man those guys are smart.
> > >
> > > > I have little
> > > > confidence that folks who are unable to understand what a
> > PTR record
> > > is
> > > > or that an Mx record must be an A record are going to choose the
> > > correct
> > > > settings for their SPF records.
> > >
> > > http://apache.org/foundation/docs/sender-id-position.html
> > >   * We are also concerned by the rush to adopt this
> > standard in spite
> > of
> > >     technical concerns, lack of experience in the field,
> > and a lack of
> > >     consensus in the IETF MARID WG.




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