Go through and replace everyone with a lot of people.  And you can replace the we at 
the bottom with "members of this mailing list".

If your business partner uses ~all then you'll quickly decide not to whitelist them or 
tell them to not be so lazy.

Why are we so hung up on RFC compliance.  When it comes to SMTP it's time to make HUGE 
revisions.  I'm sick and tired of us sticking with a broken mail protocol in the name 
of RFC compliance.

Why are you saying the From field has some legitimize today?  The only thing I trust 
as legitimate is what IP address my mail server accepted the message from.

Steve Evans
SDSU Foundation
 
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 3:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SPF Warning

> That's probably going to end up being one of the biggest advantages of
> SPF.  Whitelisting business partners just based on domain.  Right now if
> I want to reliably white list [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd have to match against
> IP address also.  With SPF you can just rely on the partner to have
> their SPF records correct.

Where's the reliability if that partner's "correct" SPF record includes ~all or ?all 
and you've whitelisted their domain.

> What I don't get is everyone is saying SPF sucks because it isn't going
> to stop all spam.  

Define everyone. That isn't what I've been saying and I don't believe that's what D�j� 
said.

>Well XP SP2 isn't going to stop all worms but it
> still has a lot of good anti-worm features to it.  

Does XP SP2 break RFC complaint applications? 

>All SPF is going to
> do is make the From field somewhat legitimate.  

The From field is 'somewhat' legitimate today. How much more or less the >From field 
is under SPF is one of the points of contention IMO. 

>So at least we can say
> when it comes from @aol.com, or @microsoft.com, we know that those
> companies have authorized it at a basic level.  

Who is "we"? A typical end user? They'll have no idea whether or not a company has 
published such a record, what the parameters are of that record, of any filtering 
their mail host does on inbound messages based on that record and n other criteria. 
How much more credible or reliable should a message which passes the filters be 
considered by the recipient?



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