> Go through and replace everyone with a lot of people.  

Lots of people don't understand SPF, Sender-ID, DNS or SMTP. The tech
writers and analysts I've seen comment on most things related to SPF and
Sender-ID are not credible, so I imagine most mail administrators don't
understand what the technologies are about. A number of comments (both
pro and con) I've seen in various forums tend to bear this out.

>And you can replace
> the we at the bottom with "members of this mailing list".

1/10th of 1% of this mailing list? Maybe. 

> If your business partner uses ~all then you'll quickly decide not to
> whitelist them or tell them to not be so lazy.

~all isn't necessarily lazy. There are plenty of legitimate reasons for
a company to choose it. 

> Why are we so hung up on RFC compliance.  

Because it's essential to interoperability. Because breaking it through
massive changes in the existing infrastructure like you proposed earlier
in the thread would take years and cost billions. Because the RFC
compliant standards have a track record of performing the intended
functionality reliably despite shortcomings and some of the changes
people propose are less likely to be as seamless or reliable. 

> When it comes to SMTP it's time
> to make HUGE revisions.  I'm sick and tired of us sticking with a
broken
> mail protocol in the name of RFC compliance.

The coexistence period between IPv6 and IPv4 is 20 years. Fixing SMTP so
that spam is impossible or prohibitively expensive is IMHO a
significantly more complex undertaking. Huge revisions (which SPF is
not) have huge implications and is a different topic of discussion I
think. 

> Why are you saying the From field has some legitimize today?  The only
> thing I trust as legitimate is what IP address my mail server accepted
the
> message from.

And SPF makes the message more legitimate how? Because I can now trust
the From address is from the domain it purported to be from? What's the
value in that? Now you can trust the IP address and the domain. Can you
trust the content?



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