Well I am not aware of the details of why SANs perform differently, but
EMC and IBM explained it this way. We have an IBM shark, which we use
primarily for our Mainframe and AS/400 systems, while we use EMC
Clariion's for our intel distributed systems and unix servers.

The EMC is a lower costing product than the IBM shark, but actually
performs better from a raw I/O throughput frame of reference. 

The IBM shark is really designed for stability, and we truly never have
any issues with it at all, 100% uptime. The EMC has had it's issues and
microcode upgrades have forced downtime for us, but the system performs
so insanely fast. The clarriion tends to use the latest software to get
the most performance out of the technology, while the IBM SAN sticks
with what is rock solid and performs.

Another note, we are one of the few insane companies that run true
diskless server, Booting to SAN for all. We are running about 225 boot
to san servers now. Hope some of my practical knowledge helps a little,
wish I could give you more detail though. 

Well guess I better pay attention, I am in a VoIP class this week.

TTYL,

Tony Sollars

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Crowley [MVP]
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 3:42 PM
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Okay, I'll ask again.  How so?  You list some generalities, but I still
don't understand how the two products are different.  I'm not a SAN
expert
by any stretch of the imagination, but I really wasn't aware that there
are
such fundamental differences, so I'd like to understand exactly what
they
are.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

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Nathan
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 3:32 PM
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As I understand it one major difference between EMC and EVA is how they
handle disk groups and how the physical disk spindles are written too
and
distributed within those disk groups.  The EVA allows you to create
massive
disk groups comprising of as many disks as your array will handle, and
the
larger the better in terms of Disk IO.  I also understand many of the
SAN
solutions handle RAID and VRAID differently and performance can be
increased
vs. decreased by the amount of disks, depending on what SAN solution you
go
with.

Nathan

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Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 1:11 PM
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How so?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

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Nathan
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 12:59 PM
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I would add that not all SANs are the same.  The way EMC writes data
compared to EVA is significantly different and you should understand how
your SAN works first and foremost.

Nathan

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John (OIG/OMP)
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:26 AM
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Subject: SAN and Exchange

All,

Are there any special modifications you need to do to add your Exch2K3
to a
SAN?  Please let me know.

Thank you,

______________________
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Exchange Engineer
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