I think a far more significant reason, which applies to organizations that
have more than one public folder server, is that when mail is sent to a
public folder a connection is made to some arbitrary public store, which
then forwards the message to a store that has a replica.  So you could end
up with a case where the archived data takes two hops.  If you have more
than one replica of the archive store, then add even more traffic to the
mix.  In this circumstance, you can see how archiving mail to a public
folder could cause substantially more load on your servers.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael
B. Smith
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 3:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stop users deleting their messages (MSX2003)

Posts in public folders are IPM.Post for the message class. Items in a
mailbox are, by default, IPM.Note. While there are ways to change the
default for public folders, in recent versions of Exchange, you're still in
a situation where a conversion is taking place thus affecting the fidelity
of the messages.

Secondly, moving to a different store is less efficient than staying in the
same store. You lose SIS. :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alberto
Faccioli
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 5:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stop users deleting their messages (MSX2003)

You're right, I found the reference
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/843105/en-us

However the KB is not clear as to the drawbacks of journaling to a PF.
Incomplete journaling or possible problems/instability on the Exchange box?
I didn't see either of the two...

Alberto
 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 1:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stop users deleting their messages (MSX2003)

A) Microsoft recommends that you journal to a mailbox, not a public folder.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alberto
Faccioli
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 3:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stop users deleting their messages (MSX2003)


You might:

A) Setup Exchange message journaling to a public folder.  
Limitation is that +ALL+ the messages will go there, regardless of
sender/recipient.

B) GFI Mail Essential has rules to copy smtp traffic to a public folder (you
can set rules based on senders/recipients). 
Limitation is that only SMTP traffic will get there, and not the messages
internal to the company.
(Btw, GFI ME includes also a darn good spam filter.)

I know there are other journaling systems around (GFI has one) that copy
messages to a SQL database, and I guess with those you can setup
high-granularity permissions to access specific messages based on
sender/recipient, but if you can live with one of the two above (or both, if
you've got enough storage) it's certainly an easier solution for a small
organization.

Cheers,
Alberto


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luke
Cassar
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 3:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Stop users deleting their messages (MSX2003)

Hi,
We have a small client with an Exchange 2003 server, everyone has a mailbox,
pretty simple stuff.

One of the managers however HAD to have access to everyones mailbox, which I
did with permissions and mapping all the mailboxes to his Outlook profile,
so he can see everything in each users mailbox, etc..

He is still concerned because users can delete messages from their
mailboxes, empty the deleted items folder, and the messages are gone (short
of restoring from a backup).

Is there some possible way, to prevent users from deleting their own
messages.. perhaps they can send them to the deleted items folder, but thats
it. They cannot empty that folder, and cannot make the messages dissapear
themselves?

Any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated.

Cheers
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