Neil,
Please be aware that the stubs contain at least the MS header info which
means they can be anything from 836B to 12KB depending on SMTP addresses
contained within and when you get users that have 100,000+ shortcuts these
add up. But it does mean that the Archived email only traverses the
network once(compressed), not twice like IXOS product.
P.S. you can access emails via an 'Archive explorer' UI that does not
require shortcuts to be retained (if the user doesn't want to).
Cheers
Paul
Toothbrushes are like standards,
Everybody wants one but not yours
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil
Doody
Sent: 17 January 2007 13:46
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Best value for money exchange archiving
Well I didn't know, no, that's why I want to get an evaluation of
Enterprise Vault, I only know it as another player in the market offering
maili archiving solutions, but your insight is hugely appreciated!
In terms of mail reduction, we are not trying to reduce users mailboxes
for them, we basically hit them with a cap and they have to manage it
themselves, the idea behind archiving there mailbox is that they can feel
confident mails can be retrieved after they have deleted them. In this
respect GFI/Quest both offer a solution that would be viable though I am
quite interested in how Enterprise Vault works from your description.
So the stub it leaves, this is just a pointer to an email which is now
stored at a different location, presumably in the stores of Enterprise
Vault? To the end user it appears though emails are still in there
mailbox? I guess this way you could consider proactively managing
mailboxes for users and archiving the mail using date ranges and the user
would never know the difference.
Sounds good, I have already put in a call log for someone from symantec to
call me as I cant find an online demo.
Cheers.
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Butler
Sent: 17 January 2007 11:12
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Best value for money exchange archiving
You do know that you are comparing apples to oranges with GFI Mail
Archiver and Enterprise Vault?
I personally do not feel that you can compare them, because they do two
different jobs.
GFI Mail Archiver is a journaling application. It uses the journal feature
of Exchange to take a copy of every message as it passes through the
Exchange server.
It will do nothing to reduce the size of the store, as it does not remove
items from the database. If you want to reduce the size of the store with
that product, then you have to extract the content from the mailbox using
exmerge then import the PST file.
On an ongoing basis users need to actually delete email from their mailbox
themselves, GFI cannot do that for you.
I use GFI MA for sites that need to keep a copy of messages for compliance
reasons.
Enterprise Vault on the other hand, while it can do the above, it is also
able to extract content from the Store and leave a stub behind so that the
user can get access to the item without actually having to move to a
different interface to get hold of it. It is a much more complex
application than GFI MA. GFI MA is basically an SQL database with a fancy
front end and an POP3 or IMAP client (cannot remember which one it uses
right now) to populate the database.
The difference in complexity is demonstrated by the difference in the cost
of the application and the install time required.
Simon.
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil
Doody
Sent: 17 January 2007 09:21
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Best value for money exchange archiving
I'm not just looking for pricing, though it has to be included in my
report, my report is around 95% technical analysis the pricing comes at
the end I just don't want to get sales people hounding me.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris
Scharff
Sent: 16 January 2007 16:30
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Best value for money exchange archiving
Don't like to deal with sales? Create an RFP and send it to them with a
deadline.
End.
If you don't have enough in terms of requirements or needs assessment to
create an RFP then you're doing yourself and your company a disservice by
skipping the sales weasels and just looking for pricing. Pricing alone is
a poor way to select a product/vendor/service.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil Doody Posted
At: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:41 AM Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Best value for money exchange archiving
Subject: RE: Best value for money exchange archiving
Is it possible for people to give me some indicitive prices for the
different solutions they went with? So far I've found that quest
archiver manager to be around £30 per mailbox, GFI Mail Archiver is
clearly stated as $1950 for 100 mailboxes. I have seen a site that
lists enterprise vault at aroudn $5000 for 500 mailboxes though there
are suggestions of acquiring different modules what would I require
bassline and how much is it?
Can anyone tell me prices for mimosa?
I appreciate that this information is what you would normally contact
the vendors with but trying to get through the thick mud they call
sales persons is really quite hard to get some form of bassline costs.
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