Well I didn't know, no, that's why I want to get an evaluation of Enterprise Vault, I only know it as another player in the market offering maili archiving solutions, but your insight is hugely appreciated!
In terms of mail reduction, we are not trying to reduce users mailboxes for them, we basically hit them with a cap and they have to manage it themselves, the idea behind archiving there mailbox is that they can feel confident mails can be retrieved after they have deleted them. In this respect GFI/Quest both offer a solution that would be viable though I am quite interested in how Enterprise Vault works from your description. So the stub it leaves, this is just a pointer to an email which is now stored at a different location, presumably in the stores of Enterprise Vault? To the end user it appears though emails are still in there mailbox? I guess this way you could consider proactively managing mailboxes for users and archiving the mail using date ranges and the user would never know the difference. Sounds good, I have already put in a call log for someone from symantec to call me as I cant find an online demo. Cheers. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Butler Sent: 17 January 2007 11:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Best value for money exchange archiving You do know that you are comparing apples to oranges with GFI Mail Archiver and Enterprise Vault? I personally do not feel that you can compare them, because they do two different jobs. GFI Mail Archiver is a journaling application. It uses the journal feature of Exchange to take a copy of every message as it passes through the Exchange server. It will do nothing to reduce the size of the store, as it does not remove items from the database. If you want to reduce the size of the store with that product, then you have to extract the content from the mailbox using exmerge then import the PST file. On an ongoing basis users need to actually delete email from their mailbox themselves, GFI cannot do that for you. I use GFI MA for sites that need to keep a copy of messages for compliance reasons. Enterprise Vault on the other hand, while it can do the above, it is also able to extract content from the Store and leave a stub behind so that the user can get access to the item without actually having to move to a different interface to get hold of it. It is a much more complex application than GFI MA. GFI MA is basically an SQL database with a fancy front end and an POP3 or IMAP client (cannot remember which one it uses right now) to populate the database. The difference in complexity is demonstrated by the difference in the cost of the application and the install time required. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCP, MCSA, MCSE, Amset IT Solutions Ltd. e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.amset-it.com w: www.amset.info -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil Doody Sent: 17 January 2007 09:21 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Best value for money exchange archiving I'm not just looking for pricing, though it has to be included in my report, my report is around 95% technical analysis the pricing comes at the end I just don't want to get sales people hounding me. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: 16 January 2007 16:30 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Best value for money exchange archiving Don't like to deal with sales? Create an RFP and send it to them with a deadline. End. If you don't have enough in terms of requirements or needs assessment to create an RFP then you're doing yourself and your company a disservice by skipping the sales weasels and just looking for pricing. Pricing alone is a poor way to select a product/vendor/service. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil Doody Posted > At: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:41 AM Posted To: swynk > Conversation: Best value for money exchange archiving > Subject: RE: Best value for money exchange archiving > > > Is it possible for people to give me some indicitive prices for the > different solutions they went with? So far I've found that quest > archiver manager to be around £30 per mailbox, GFI Mail Archiver is > clearly stated as $1950 for 100 mailboxes. I have seen a site that > lists enterprise vault at aroudn $5000 for 500 mailboxes though there > are suggestions of acquiring different modules what would I require > bassline and how much is it? > > Can anyone tell me prices for mimosa? > > I appreciate that this information is what you would normally contact > the vendors with but trying to get through the thick mud they call > sales persons is really quite hard to get some form of bassline costs. _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. 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