I aggressively report spam here, including NDR redirects. Spammers are using 
servers that send NDRs almost as effectively as open relays. It's unfortunate: 
I'd like to be able to use NDRs as intended in the RFC, but my system doesn't 
generate them. If it accepts them, and then determines them to be spam, it 
either quarantines or deletes them. I'm not trying to say my way is better than 
anybody else's, that's just how I've decided to deal with it.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Cunningham
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email philosophy 101 - Spam NDRs

It all depends on how you value your customers.
(that's not a trick question :-)  )

We currently try to send the 49 spammy ones. In our case the 49 do not
impact the performance of the mail gateway.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of East,
Bill
Sent: Thursday, 20 December 2007 10:03
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Email philosophy 101 - Spam NDRs

Let's say we get 1000 messages with invalid addresses into our spam
filter.
950 of them will get caught as spam if we filter them.
49 slip past the filter but shouldn't have. They're directory harvesting
messages, invalid return addresses, and valid return addresses of people
who didn't send the spam.
1 is a message from one of our customers asking for directions, that he
fat-fingered to MemmerService

Should we send NDRs on the 49 spammy ones so that the customer gets his
NDR? Or should we silently drop his message so that we're not sending 49
NDRs that we shouldn't?

Please use a #2 pencil.


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