Very true. Add rate limiting to help combat harvesting and dictionary
attacks.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of East, Bill
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 8:36 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Email philosophy 101 - Spam NDRs
> 
> Good option. Real senders get the notification they need and
> misdirectred NDRs don't happen.
> 
> The only problem I see there, from a filtering point of view, is that
> it
> makes directory harvesting much easier.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]     554
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]     554
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]     354, Please spam the hell out of this
valid
> address.
> 
> --
> be - MOS
> 
> A company is known by the men it keeps.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Kennedy, Jim
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:27 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Email philosophy 101 - Spam NDRs
> >
> >
> > 3) You should get a spam solution that will do realtime
> > recipient checking and 554 them during SMTP.
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:bounce-
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of East, Bill
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:03 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Email philosophy 101 - Spam NDRs
> > >
> > > Let's say we get 1000 messages with invalid addresses into our
spam
> > > filter.
> > > 950 of them will get caught as spam if we filter them.
> > > 49 slip past the filter but shouldn't have. They're directory
> > > harvesting messages, invalid return addresses, and valid return
> > > addresses of people who didn't send the spam.
> > > 1 is a message from one of our customers asking for directions,
> that
> > he
> > > fat-fingered to MemmerService
> > >
> > > Should we send NDRs on the 49 spammy ones so that the customer
gets
> > his
> > > NDR? Or should we silently drop his message so that we're
> > not sending
> > > 49
> > > NDRs that we shouldn't?
> > >
> > > Please use a #2 pencil.
> > >
> > >
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