No problem. I'd be curious as to how MS would "know" you had utilized a brain dump in the first place. Transcenders are good study guides, I've used them as well.
John W. Cook Director of Network Operations Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, Security + VSP4, VTSP4 [MCP_SE_c] [MCTS] [top_banner] [VMLOGO_VTSP_S_Q208] [sales_prof_B] From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ccollins9 Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 3:15 PM To: exchange Subject: Re: [Exchange] Microsoft certifications I didn't accuse you, John, I just said that with the title you have, it could be embarrassing to admit to using that site (which you did admit to, sorry, but that's just a fact here). I wasn't passing judgement, I was just trying to give a real-world example of why people shouldn't use those sites as it could possibly undermine respect people have for you that are "in the know". Not many people know this stuff or even know what Braindumps are, so I like to warn folks. That's all I meant. If you want everything to be on the up and up, I would recommend using Transcender and MeasureUp. Also the site www.techexams.net<http://www.techexams.net> is a very helpful forum. Bootcamps are fine as long as they are a Microsoft partnered bootcamp. Back in the day bootcamps had a bad rep because they were often braindump bootcamps. But Microsoft now sanctions classes that are boot camps. Example link below. http://www.globalknowledge.com/training/course.asp?pageid=9&courseid=19201&catid=184&country=United+States On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 3:04 PM, John Cook <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Therein lies the crux - are you looking to get a cert or actual experience. Passing an exam is fine but it really doesn't substitute for experience - I have no Exchange certs but I'm pretty proficient. What about boot camps? John W. Cook Director of Network Operations Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610<tel:%28352%29%20244-1610> Cell (352) 215-6944<tel:%28352%29%20215-6944> MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, Security + VSP4, VTSP4 [MCP_SE_c] [MCTS] [top_banner] [VMLOGO_VTSP_S_Q208] [sales_prof_B] From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Adam Farage Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 2:55 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [Exchange] Microsoft certifications Pass4Sure = not the way to go if you actually want to learn the content. Not knocking you John, but Pass4Sure as a company was sued back in 2008 (ref?) by MSFT for stealing exam answers, which is why if you go to there official website (I think it is still pass4sure.com<http://pass4sure.com>) they do not have MS listed as a vendor. Its a common mistake, as my first IT job ever was at a IT training institute (back in 2005ish) and well, the MCT's (Microsoft Certified Trainers) would actually go over these with students. *Sigh* As a past MCT (I refuse to pay 1,000 for a renewal fee) I feel the MOC (Microsoft Official Courseware) is good if you have an instructor with real life experience, who can expand off the pretty ridged content they provide to the MCT. You can tell a good MCT from a crappy one when they basically read off the slides, don't elaborate on the labs / bullets provided and cant go into too deep of detail. Moving onto self study, I would recommend the following: Mastering Microsoft Exchange 2013 (a good top to bottom of Exchange 2013): http://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Microsoft-Exchange-Server-2013/dp/1118556836/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1407955814&sr=8-1&keywords=Exchange+2013 Microsoft Exchange 2013: Design, Deploy and Deliver an Enterprise Messaging Solution (book is more geared towards architecture and a deeper book than the one above): http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Exchange-Server-2013-Enterprise/dp/1118541901/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1407955814&sr=8-9&keywords=Exchange+2013 Inside Out books (really good for deep dive content outside of the interwebs): http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Exchange-Server-Connectivity-Clients/dp/0735678375/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1407955814&sr=8-5&keywords=Exchange+2013 AND http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Exchange-Server-Mailbox-Availability/dp/0735678588/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_y If you are just looking at certification, I think the first book above is more than enough + some hands on homelab fun (just take a semi-crappy pc, throw hyper-v 2012 on there and build out some Exchange servers). The hands on experience helps all in its own, as you will know the interface and get to interact with the commands to see what switches are out there. ________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 14:38:04 -0400 Subject: Re: [Exchange] Microsoft certifications To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Just FYI because many people don't realize this who aren't involved often in the world of IT certification: Pass4Sure is a BRAINDUMP site. Braindump sites are cheating because they use real questions/answers and you COULD have your certification revoked by Microsoft. See MS blog link below. John, with a title like "Director of Network Operations", you may want to be careful who you tell that you used Pass4Sure for anything. Could be embarrassing. http://borntolearn.mslearn.net/btl/b/weblog/archive/2013/01/02/why-brain-dumps-are-bad.aspx http://www.certguard.com/ On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 7:49 PM, John Cook <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Last ones I used was pass4sure John W. Cook Director of Network Operations Partnership for Strong Families Ryan Finnesey <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: It has been at least 14 years since I had to sit and take a Microsoft certification test. I need to take a few tests. I was wondering what study guides people are using. Cheers Ryan ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. 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