True. I went up there one time to participate in a group discussion about a particular cert exam. The woman guiding the conversation was one of their psychometricians (sp?), and she was incredibly smart.
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > Did you know that “psychometrics” is a real science? > > > > (Definition #2 from the World English Dictionary: the application of > statistical and mathematical techniques to psychological testing.) > > > > Microsoft Learning employs psychometricians. Some of the best. > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *ccollins9 > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 13, 2014 3:57 PM > *To:* exchange > *Subject:* Re: [Exchange] Microsoft certifications > > > > Well, one way could be an admission by someone on a public listserv with > their real-world work signature underneath it, hence my unsolicited warning > [wink]. > > But other than that, it is always been big mystery. Take that article I > send for example, in it the Microsoft employee says "I won’t tell you how > we know when someone has used a brain dump to pass an exam, but we know. > While we work hard to prevent brain dumps from obtaining our material in > the first place, and then removing it when it appears, we also put the > responsibility on test-takers to act responsibly and with integrity." > > Over the years instructors have struck fear into the the hearts of > students by saying that exam questions are often written in a way where > someone's answers identify people that are using *known* braindump sites. > Whether this is true is anyone's guess. But one thing is for certain, the > more people that use brain dumps, the more get certified, and the harder > the questions get. It's a self-generating problem as I see it. Because as > the questions get harder and more obscure, the more likely people are to > use dumps. > > > > On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 3:38 PM, John Cook <[email protected]> wrote: > > No problem. I’d be curious as to how MS would “know” you had utilized a > brain dump in the first place. Transcenders are good study guides, I’ve > used them as well. > > > > *John W. Cook* > > *Director of Network Operations* > > *Partnership For Strong Families* > > *5950 NW 1st Place* > > *Gainesville, Fl 32607* > > *Office (352) 244-1610 <%28352%29%20244-1610>* > > *Cell (352) 215-6944 <%28352%29%20215-6944>* > > > > *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, * > > *CompTIA A+, N+, Security +* > > *VSP4, VTSP4* > > *[image: MCP_SE_c] [image: MCTS] *[image: top_banner] > > > > *[image: VMLOGO_VTSP_S_Q208] [image: sales_prof_B]* > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *ccollins9 > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 13, 2014 3:15 PM > *To:* exchange > > > *Subject:* Re: [Exchange] Microsoft certifications > > > > I didn't accuse you, John, I just said that with the title you have, it > could be embarrassing to admit to using that site (which you did admit to, > sorry, but that's just a fact here). I wasn't passing judgement, I was > just trying to give a real-world example of why people shouldn't use those > sites as it could possibly undermine respect people have for you that are > "in the know". Not many people know this stuff or even know what > Braindumps are, so I like to warn folks. That's all I meant. > > > > If you want everything to be on the up and up, I would recommend using > Transcender and MeasureUp. Also the site www.techexams.net is a very > helpful forum. > > > > Bootcamps are fine as long as they are a Microsoft partnered bootcamp. > Back in the day bootcamps had a bad rep because they were often braindump > bootcamps. But Microsoft now sanctions classes that are boot camps. Example > link below. > > > > > http://www.globalknowledge.com/training/course.asp?pageid=9&courseid=19201&catid=184&country=United+States > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 3:04 PM, John Cook <[email protected]> wrote: > > Therein lies the crux – are you looking to get a cert or actual > experience. Passing an exam is fine but it really doesn’t substitute for > experience – I have no Exchange certs but I’m pretty proficient. What > about boot camps? > > > > *John W. Cook* > > *Director of Network Operations* > > *Partnership For Strong Families* > > *5950 NW 1st Place* > > *Gainesville, Fl 32607* > > *Office (352) 244-1610 <%28352%29%20244-1610>* > > *Cell (352) 215-6944 <%28352%29%20215-6944>* > > > > *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, * > > *CompTIA A+, N+, Security +* > > *VSP4, VTSP4* > > *[image: MCP_SE_c] [image: MCTS] *[image: top_banner] > > > > *[image: VMLOGO_VTSP_S_Q208] [image: sales_prof_B]* > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Adam Farage > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 13, 2014 2:55 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [Exchange] Microsoft certifications > > > > Pass4Sure = not the way to go if you actually want to learn the content. > Not knocking you John, but Pass4Sure as a company was sued back in 2008 > (ref?) by MSFT for stealing exam answers, which is why if you go to there > official website (I think it is still pass4sure.com) they do not have MS > listed as a vendor. Its a common mistake, as my first IT job ever was at a > IT training institute (back in 2005ish) and well, the MCT's (Microsoft > Certified Trainers) would actually go over these with students. *Sigh* > > > > As a past MCT (I refuse to pay 1,000 for a renewal fee) I feel the MOC > (Microsoft Official Courseware) is good if you have an instructor with real > life experience, who can expand off the pretty ridged content they provide > to the MCT. You can tell a good MCT from a crappy one when they basically > read off the slides, don't elaborate on the labs / bullets provided and > cant go into too deep of detail. > > Moving onto self study, I would recommend the following: > > Mastering Microsoft Exchange 2013 (a good top to bottom of Exchange 2013): > http://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Microsoft-Exchange-Server-2013/dp/1118556836/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1407955814&sr=8-1&keywords=Exchange+2013 > > Microsoft Exchange 2013: Design, Deploy and Deliver an Enterprise > Messaging Solution (book is more geared towards architecture and a deeper > book than the one above): > http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Exchange-Server-2013-Enterprise/dp/1118541901/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1407955814&sr=8-9&keywords=Exchange+2013 > > Inside Out books (really good for deep dive content outside of the > interwebs): > http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Exchange-Server-Connectivity-Clients/dp/0735678375/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1407955814&sr=8-5&keywords=Exchange+2013 > AND > http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Exchange-Server-Mailbox-Availability/dp/0735678588/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_y > > If you are just looking at certification, I think the first book above is > more than enough + some hands on homelab fun (just take a semi-crappy pc, > throw hyper-v 2012 on there and build out some Exchange servers). The hands > on experience helps all in its own, as you will know the interface and get > to interact with the commands to see what switches are out there. > ------------------------------ > > From: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 14:38:04 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Exchange] Microsoft certifications > To: [email protected] > > Just FYI because many people don't realize this who aren't involved often > in the world of IT certification: > > > > Pass4Sure is a BRAINDUMP site. Braindump sites are cheating because they > use real questions/answers and you COULD have your certification revoked by > Microsoft. See MS blog link below. > > > > John, with a title like "Director of Network Operations", you may want to > be careful who you tell that you used Pass4Sure for anything. Could be > embarrassing. > > > > > http://borntolearn.mslearn.net/btl/b/weblog/archive/2013/01/02/why-brain-dumps-are-bad.aspx > > > > http://www.certguard.com/ > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 7:49 PM, John Cook <[email protected]> wrote: > > Last ones I used was pass4sure > > > > > > John W. Cook > > Director of Network Operations > > Partnership for Strong Families > > > > Ryan Finnesey <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > It has been at least 14 years since I had to sit and take a Microsoft > certification test. I need to take a few tests. I was wondering what > study guides people are using. > > Cheers > Ryan > > > ------------------------------ > > > CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or > attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity > to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information > (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. 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