Why pay for dinner if you can get it for free?  What does NTBACKUP not do
that you need to do?

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Craig Manske
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 3:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups


The software wasn't to bad functionality wise.

Let me ask you a question.  Would you return to a restaurant who's owner
forced you to pay double for your dinner because you accidentally spilled
your plate on the floor, even if they had the greatest food in the world?  I
highly doubt it...  I feel the same way about software companies.  Quality
of product is only 33% of the purchase.  The other 66% deals with customer
support, sales, price, availability, how often upgrades are released, how
long they support old versions, etc...

One of our servers is NT 3.51 on a p133 with Backup Exec 7.01.  It doesn't
need upgrading because it does what it does, and the hardware works.  Why
spend thousands of dollars in hardware, software, and time just to have a
corvette thats only purpose is to drive a person across the street and back?
The new version of BE doesn't support NT 3.51, so now I need to upgrade to
at least NT 4.0.  NT 4.0 isn't supported by my hardware, so now I need to
upgrade my hardware and waste half a day doing it.  Why should I have to pay
$5000+ to upgrade just because Veritas fails to keep customer records?

If I needed to reinstall CadKEY their customer support rep would gladly say,
"I'm sorry to hear that you lost your software key and serial numbers, let
me get those for you right away."   Unlike Veritas, "Sorry, you have to
upgrade." or the way I interpret it, "Heh heh heh, another idiot who lost
his codes, let's make some money offa this fool."  When they could have
said, "Fax us over your proof of purchase and we'll get you some new codes."

If I have to upgrade anyway I'm defiantly not going back to Veritas.  And if
I have to upgrade one server I might as well upgrade the backup software on
the rest of my servers.

Sorry to get angry like this, but I get mad when companies don't care about
customers who fail to spend at least $5 million on their software a year.

-Craig

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom.Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 3:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups


Have you had any actual problems with the software?

Tom Gray, Network Engineer
All Kinds of Minds & The Center for Development and Learning
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Internet:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AT&T Net: (919)960-8888




-----Original Message-----
From: Craig Manske [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 4:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Opinion on Backups


I've been looking at Backup software for out NT/2000/Exchange servers.
Right now we run Veritas Backup Exec but because of the poor support (Pay
support sucks) and horriable Customer Service (They didn't have any
information on file about my company or purchases).  I've decided to choose
another brand of tape software.  What I'd like to know is what you're
opinion is on the best software (Other then BE) to use with NT/2000
including Exchange support.

Thanks
--
Craig Manske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
IS Manager
Stanek Tool <www.stanektool.com>
New Berlin, WI


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