You read/interpreted it incorrectly. Deleted Item Retention times sets a tombstone on a deleted item. When the tombstone life has expired so does your chance of restoring it without going to tape. The "Dumpster" is a reg hack that enhances DIR time by allowing you to recovery things that were deleted but were never in the deleted items folder.
Do a search on "deleted item retention" and "DumpsterAlwaysOn" at www.microsoft.com/technet Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp "Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)..." Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 12:09 PM >>>To: Exchange Discussions >>>Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups >>> >>> >>>yes a little but I thought the Dumpster is what restores >>>mail that was deleted by a user or maybe I read it wrong. >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:04 AM >>>To: Exchange Discussions >>>Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups >>> >>> >>>Rich, >>> >>>Deleted Items Retention has nothing to do with limits on >>>PF's or Mailboxes. Deleted Items Retention gives you and >>>your users the ability to recover a piece of mail they >>>deleted without having to do any kind of restore. >>> >>>The only scenario I can see where a mailbox would need to be >>>restored is for some legal issue or something. In the event >>>that you actually needed to restore a mailbox, that would be >>>a great time to test your disaster recovery procedures. >>> >>>The other night I was called to a client site to do some >>>disaster recovery only to find out their backups were >>>useless. That was the wrong time to discover that. >>> >>>That is why BLB's are useless to me and many others around >>>the world. They are a waste of tape and resources, not to >>>mention the strain put on the tapes and the tape drives themselves. >>> >>>Does that explain enough for you? >>> >>>D >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 8:00 AM >>>To: Exchange Discussions >>>Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups >>> >>> >>>Don, >>> If you don't mind me asking how does the deleted items >>>retention help restore a mailbox. I though deleted items >>>retention was for setting limits for a mailbox or public folder. >>> >>>Rich >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:39 AM >>>To: Exchange Discussions >>>Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups >>> >>> >>>Nope. Why would you want to? Deleted Items Retention works >>>very nicely. >>> >>>D >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Bill Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 7:45 AM >>>To: Exchange Discussions >>>Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups >>> >>> >>>Is there a way to make NTBACKUP restore a single mailbox? >>>Not flaming, genuinely interested in knowing. >>> >>>TIA. >>> >>>Bill Lambert, Mcp, Mcse >>>Endoxy Healthcare >>>847-941-9206 >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:16 AM >>>To: Exchange Discussions >>>Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups >>> >>>I like NT Backup, Backup Exec (Occasionally, the other night >>>I didn't like it at all), CommVault Galaxy, Ultrabac, >>>LiveVault, and there might be a few others. Off of the top >>>of my head, those products are very good. >>> >>>ArcCrap is exactly that... Unreliable, no support, a pain >>>in the arse, breaks more than it fixes... Shall I go on? >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Robert Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 5:45 AM >>>To: Exchange Discussions >>>Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups >>> >>> >>>It seems like there's NO backup software anybody likes. >>>Everytime someone mentions a brand, they get toasted. We use >>>ArcServe (foisted on me by others). I'm not real wild about >>>it, but I don't hate it either. But then I haven't had to do >>>a major recovery with it yet. Their support is pretty poor, >>>but so far the software has done the job for us (like I >>>said, no disaster recoveries yet). I don't know that I'd go >>>so far as to recommend it, but I wouldn't totally dis it either. >>> >>>Rob >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 8:43 AM >>>To: Exchange Discussions >>>Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups >>> >>> >>>Do you always bet on the losing horse? >>> >>>--------------------------------------------- >>>Phil Randal >>>Network Engineer >>>Herefordshire Council >>>Hereford, UK >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Govindaraj Rangan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>> Sent: 18 October 2001 13:39 >>>> To: Exchange Discussions >>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups >>>> >>>> >>>> I would bet on ArcServe. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >>>Craig Manske >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 2:15 AM >>>> To: Exchange Discussions >>>> Subject: Opinion on Backups >>>> >>>> >>>> I've been looking at Backup software for out >>>NT/2000/Exchange servers. >>>> Right now we run Veritas Backup Exec but because of the >>>poor support >>>> (Pay support sucks) and horriable Customer Service (They >>>didn't have >>>> any information on file about my company or purchases). >>>I've decided >>>> to choose another brand of tape software. What I'd like >>>to know is >>>> what you're opinion is on the best software (Other then BE) to use >>>> with NT/2000 including Exchange support. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> -- >>>> Craig Manske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> IS Manager >>>> Stanek Tool <www.stanektool.com> >>>> New Berlin, WI >>>> >>>> >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >>>> Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp >>>> To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >>>> Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp >>>> To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>> >>>_________________________________________________________________ >>>List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >>>Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp >>>To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>>_________________________________________________________________ >>>List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >>>Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp >>>To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>>_________________________________________________________________ >>>List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >>>Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp >>>To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>>_________________________________________________________________ >>>List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >>>Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp >>>To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>>_________________________________________________________________ >>>List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >>>Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp >>>To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>>_________________________________________________________________ >>>List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >>>Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp >>>To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>>_________________________________________________________________ >>>List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >>>Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp >>>To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>>_________________________________________________________________ >>>List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >>>Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp >>>To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
