The problem is with &$(*)#&$#&$@ like MailGuard, it drops the packet, rather
than replying with a 250 Error message, so Exchange doesn't know to not send
ESMTP.

Roger
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Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT
Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 4:20 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: host unreachable
> 
> 
> If the server to which Exchange is speaking doesn't recognize 
> EHLO, it will
> then try HELO, so it does it automatically.
> 
> But, that's not really relevant to this discussion.
> 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Siegel, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 4:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: host unreachable
> 
> 
> Is there a way to dumb down exchange and not send ESMTP commands?
> 5.5 sp4
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 3:44 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: host unreachable
> 
> 
> Not entirely true. That was an old version that munged stuff that way.
> 
> Our P*x* d*n* d* *hat t** o*t*n, *u* h*ve *o** oth*r i*su*s.
> 
> Seriously, the newer code bases are the ones that cause 
> dupes, because they
> selectively drop packets that have ESMTP commands in them.
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT
> Senior Systems Administrator
> Peregrine Systems
> Atlanta, GA
> http://www.peregrine.com
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 2:52 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: host unreachable
> > 
> > 
> > You'll be able to identify the Cisco mailguard feature because it
> > filters everything except 2 and 0, and replaces it with an 
> > asterisk.  So
> > your telnet session will be answered by 
> > ******22*********0******2****0***************
> > 
> > And it's not an extension of SMTP; it's a forced limitation of it.  
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Siegel, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Posted At: Thursday, November 01, 2001 01:06 PM
> > > Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> > > Conversation: host unreachable
> > > Subject: host unreachable
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The question [I'll ask first] is why would mail to this 
> > > specific domain not
> > > work?  All other hosts work.  And intellocity claims that 
> > they have no
> > > problems from any other mail servers.
> > > now the info:
> > > 
> > > I am having a mildy intermittent mail delivery problem, and 
> > > for the most
> > > part it is non-working vs working.Errors that were discovered 
> > > linking to
> > > Intellocity are as follows:
> > > 
> > > Upon setting Maximum SMTP logging in Exchange 5.5 [I am 
> at actv.com]
> > > - Event 3010 is being recorded in app event log
> > > -Event 2003 is also being recorded app event log
> > > 
> > > 3010:An attempt to connect to host intellocity.com failed. 
> > > 
> > > Event ID 3010 can be caused by the any of the following 
> scenarios: 
> > > There is a name resolution issue to the relay host. 
> > > There are limitations of the relay host, such as inbound 
> > > connections are
> > > allowed.
> > > There is a firewall issue.
> > > To continue troubleshooting, run Telnet to determine if the 
> > > IP address that
> > > is listed in the event is correct. Next, verify that the IP 
> > > address has a
> > > functioning SMTP port.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Event 2003:
> > > A new TCP/IP SMTP connection has been made to host 
> > 64.139.16.228 (for
> > > intellocity.com).  Logfile: L0000004.LOG    
> > > According to technet:
> > > If an event ID 2003 is reported, a connection has been made 
> > > to that relay
> > > host. If you are experiencing event 2003 in addition to the 
> > > other events,
> > > you may need to troubleshoot this issue as an intermittent 
> > > issue. This event
> > > can occur if the maximum number of inbound connections to the 
> > > relay host has
> > > been reached.
> > > 
> > > I wanted to see where it was actually breaking down-  So I 
> > > went into the raw
> > > SMTP log files and excerpted the following:
> > > 
> > > 9/7/2001 2:53:20 PM : <<< IO: |250 OK - Recipient 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > |
> > > 9/7/2001 2:53:20 PM : <<< 250 OK - Recipient 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > 9/7/2001 2:53:20 PM : >>> DATA
> > > 
> > > 9/7/2001 2:53:20 PM : <<< IO: |354 Send data.  End with CRLF.CRLF
> > > |
> > > 9/7/2001 2:53:20 PM : <<< 354 Send data.  End with CRLF.CRLF
> > > 9/7/2001 2:55:03 PM : 499 Host unreachable: 
> > intellocity.com.  Message
> > > subject: ""RE: Stock Options"".  Rescheduling delivery for later.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > A technet lookup at this 499 error indicates:
> > > A 499 Error: "No routing hosts are reachable," indicates 
> > that the TCP
> > > connection has been dropped. 
> > > My guess-obviously I am not a network engineer, is they are 
> > > running some
> > > extended smtp set, like the cisco smtp fixup protocol or some 
> > > outside factor
> > > is disconnecting them.?
> > > 
> > > Please help.  I tried to furnish as much info as I could.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Rich
> > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > From:     Fogarty, David  
> > > Sent:     Friday, September 07, 2001 5:07 PM
> > > To:       Mitchell, Gary; Siegel, Richard; @Unix Team
> > > Subject:  Email to Intellocity...
> > > 
> > > We should document several tests to have on hand when we 
> > > inevitably get
> > > asked what we've done about the situation....  An email to 
> > > Derik with the
> > > tests we've done and the results we obtained would be 
> wise as well.
> > > 
> > > I don't want to say "It's not us" though until we're 100% 
> > > positive.....
> > > 
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