Yes, I know that.  But IMNSHO, the best thing to do is to fix MailGuard &
not dumb-down Exchagne....

-Mich�le
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"Well, I thought we were just celebrating the year 2000 because it's the
year 2000.  It's neat.  Just like looking at your car's odometer and
noticing that you're just now crossing 20,000 miles and you haven't yet
changed your oil which is probably why it's been making all those nasty
clanging sounds and also, melting." - Jon Nelson 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 4:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: host unreachable


The problem is with &$(*)#&$#&$@ like MailGuard, it drops the packet, rather
than replying with a 250 Error message, so Exchange doesn't know to not send
ESMTP.

Roger
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Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT
Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 4:20 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: host unreachable
> 
> 
> If the server to which Exchange is speaking doesn't recognize 
> EHLO, it will
> then try HELO, so it does it automatically.
> 
> But, that's not really relevant to this discussion.
> 
> -Mich�le
> Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
> Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
> Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
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> I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it ! 
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Siegel, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 4:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: host unreachable
> 
> 
> Is there a way to dumb down exchange and not send ESMTP commands?
> 5.5 sp4
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 3:44 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: host unreachable
> 
> 
> Not entirely true. That was an old version that munged stuff that way.
> 
> Our P*x* d*n* d* *hat t** o*t*n, *u* h*ve *o** oth*r i*su*s.
> 
> Seriously, the newer code bases are the ones that cause 
> dupes, because they
> selectively drop packets that have ESMTP commands in them.
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT
> Senior Systems Administrator
> Peregrine Systems
> Atlanta, GA
> http://www.peregrine.com
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 2:52 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: host unreachable
> > 
> > 
> > You'll be able to identify the Cisco mailguard feature because it
> > filters everything except 2 and 0, and replaces it with an 
> > asterisk.  So
> > your telnet session will be answered by 
> > ******22*********0******2****0***************
> > 
> > And it's not an extension of SMTP; it's a forced limitation of it.  
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Siegel, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Posted At: Thursday, November 01, 2001 01:06 PM
> > > Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> > > Conversation: host unreachable
> > > Subject: host unreachable
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The question [I'll ask first] is why would mail to this 
> > > specific domain not
> > > work?  All other hosts work.  And intellocity claims that 
> > they have no
> > > problems from any other mail servers.
> > > now the info:
> > > 
> > > I am having a mildy intermittent mail delivery problem, and 
> > > for the most
> > > part it is non-working vs working.Errors that were discovered 
> > > linking to
> > > Intellocity are as follows:
> > > 
> > > Upon setting Maximum SMTP logging in Exchange 5.5 [I am 
> at actv.com]
> > > - Event 3010 is being recorded in app event log
> > > -Event 2003 is also being recorded app event log
> > > 
> > > 3010:An attempt to connect to host intellocity.com failed. 
> > > 
> > > Event ID 3010 can be caused by the any of the following 
> scenarios: 
> > > There is a name resolution issue to the relay host. 
> > > There are limitations of the relay host, such as inbound 
> > > connections are
> > > allowed.
> > > There is a firewall issue.
> > > To continue troubleshooting, run Telnet to determine if the 
> > > IP address that
> > > is listed in the event is correct. Next, verify that the IP 
> > > address has a
> > > functioning SMTP port.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Event 2003:
> > > A new TCP/IP SMTP connection has been made to host 
> > 64.139.16.228 (for
> > > intellocity.com).  Logfile: L0000004.LOG    
> > > According to technet:
> > > If an event ID 2003 is reported, a connection has been made 
> > > to that relay
> > > host. If you are experiencing event 2003 in addition to the 
> > > other events,
> > > you may need to troubleshoot this issue as an intermittent 
> > > issue. This event
> > > can occur if the maximum number of inbound connections to the 
> > > relay host has
> > > been reached.
> > > 
> > > I wanted to see where it was actually breaking down-  So I 
> > > went into the raw
> > > SMTP log files and excerpted the following:
> > > 
> > > 9/7/2001 2:53:20 PM : <<< IO: |250 OK - Recipient 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > |
> > > 9/7/2001 2:53:20 PM : <<< 250 OK - Recipient 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > 9/7/2001 2:53:20 PM : >>> DATA
> > > 
> > > 9/7/2001 2:53:20 PM : <<< IO: |354 Send data.  End with CRLF.CRLF
> > > |
> > > 9/7/2001 2:53:20 PM : <<< 354 Send data.  End with CRLF.CRLF
> > > 9/7/2001 2:55:03 PM : 499 Host unreachable: 
> > intellocity.com.  Message
> > > subject: ""RE: Stock Options"".  Rescheduling delivery for later.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > A technet lookup at this 499 error indicates:
> > > A 499 Error: "No routing hosts are reachable," indicates 
> > that the TCP
> > > connection has been dropped. 
> > > My guess-obviously I am not a network engineer, is they are 
> > > running some
> > > extended smtp set, like the cisco smtp fixup protocol or some 
> > > outside factor
> > > is disconnecting them.?
> > > 
> > > Please help.  I tried to furnish as much info as I could.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Rich
> > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > From:     Fogarty, David  
> > > Sent:     Friday, September 07, 2001 5:07 PM
> > > To:       Mitchell, Gary; Siegel, Richard; @Unix Team
> > > Subject:  Email to Intellocity...
> > > 
> > > We should document several tests to have on hand when we 
> > > inevitably get
> > > asked what we've done about the situation....  An email to 
> > > Derik with the
> > > tests we've done and the results we obtained would be 
> wise as well.
> > > 
> > > I don't want to say "It's not us" though until we're 100% 
> > > positive.....
> > > 
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