Easily overcome by adding the legacy X.500 address (or distinguished name,
if you prefer) pre-migration.

MSW sucks arse when moving more than one server between orgs at different
times. Something I do a LOT of.

------------------------------------------------------
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Smith, Calvin C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 5:14 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
> 
> 
> We are in the process of planning a migration and have looked 
> at Move Server Wizard and would definitely choose it over 
> Exmerge.  Not just for Single instance storage but also to 
> maintain the links between calendars for meetings.  People 
> hate it when after the move, cancelled meetings are not 
> removed from their calendars after acting on a cancellation 
> notice.  But one thing that we don't know for sure, If you 
> use Move Server Wizard for a multi site organization, will 
> you break the meetings that span sites?  Will you break 
> meetings that span servers in a single site?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 1:36 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
> 
> 
> Understandable...  
> 
> I perform migrations both ways, it really depends on the 
> scenario involved, but I see where you're going with this.
> 
> D
> 
> "A successful person is one who can lay a firm foundation 
> with the bricks that others throw at him." -David Brink
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 1:23 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
> 
> 
> Ok, let me ellaborate on this a little bit.
> 
> I work in PSS, in a group close to the group that the 
> individual who originially wrote ExMerge worked in.  That 
> individual maintained the ExMerge code for several years.  
> That individual has now moved to MCS, and is no longer 
> maintaining that code.
> 
> I'm not saying that it's buggy.  I'm not saying that there's 
> anything wrong with it.  I'm not saying that you shouldn't 
> use it.  What I'm saying is that a lot of time and effort was 
> used to delevop and test the Move Server Wizard.  It is fully 
> supported, and there are code maintainers for it.  For moving 
> servers between sites or orgs, in my opinion, Move Server is 
> the best, hands down.  I will recommend it each and every 
> time the question is asked.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> aseigler
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 4:06 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
> 
> 
> Strange, I've never seen Exmerge crash my server, but I 
> suppose there is a possibility.  Then again, wouldn't ISScan 
> have the same "potential" impact? We (the general "we") run 
> these utilities occasionally for virus outbreaks, etc...  
> These are the "supported" methods to ripping stuff out of the 
> IS during these types of outbreaks.  So how may I ask do you 
> propose admins take care of their server then?
> 
> Most of us know that there are different versions of Exmerge 
> for the different levels of Exchange, now if this utility is 
> "buggy" as you say, why do we Exchange "professionals" out in 
> the real world use it?  Why has it been suggested we use it?  
> Or are you quoting how MS "wants" it done?  For those of us 
> in the "real" world, there is the MS way and there is the 
> "real" way.  Are you telling me I've been doing it wrong for 
> the last 6 years?
> 
> At any rate, there is a "risk" involved any time you do 
> anything to the exchange server databases.  That's like 
> saying that eseutil is NOT supported because it can crash the 
> server.  
> 
> I'm just curious to your position on all of this.  Being a 
> part of MS, I know you can't divulge your honest opinion, but 
> throw me a bone.  I've been working with Exchange since it 
> was born, so...  I'm a bit curious. I'm certainly not saying 
> you're wrong, but you have my attention for the minute.
> 
> D
> 
> 
> 
> "It's not your blue blood, your pedigree or your college 
> degree. It's what you do with your life that counts." -Millard Fuller
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:59 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
> 
> 
> You're missing the point.  It's not FULLY supported.  For 
> example, if you run ExMerge, and it crashes your machine due 
> to a bug, there is no guarantee that it will be fixed.  See 
> the disclaimer in \support\utils\readme.doc.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> aseigler
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 3:47 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
> 
> 
> Alex,
> 
> I see that you have an MS.com email addy so I for some reason 
> will assume you work there.  Where are you getting the bright 
> idea that exmerge is NOT supported by MS or even PSS for that 
> matter?  Not that I ever call on you guys, but I would say 
> that exmerge has been supported for longer than you been 
> employed there.
> 
> D
> 
> "The secret to success is to know something nobody else 
> knows." -Aristotle Onassis
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:48 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
> 
> 
> The fact that it is on the CD does not make it fully supported.
> 
> -aseigler
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: McGilligan, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:36 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
> 
> 
> Gentlemen,
> 
> This is a horse for courses scenario and not; there can only 
> be one method. It depends on what you want to achieve. And 
> Exmerge does ship with windows 2000 CD-rom (w2k only product though)
> 
> My pennies worth
> Merry Xmas
> 
> smcgilligan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Seigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: December 21 2001 1:26 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
> 
> 
> I prefer the move server process.  As long as you're using 
> the latest store.exe and mvstore.dll, and your database is in 
> acceptable shape, move server will get you where you're going 
> much faster, plus you keep single instance storage.  On top 
> of that, move server is fully supported, which is more than I 
> can say for exmerge.
> 
> -aseigler
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:22 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
> 
> 
> Well since you kind of apologized.....
> 
> We prefer Exmerge [1] over Move Server. We have found that we 
> can be at the bar drinking much quicker with the Exmerge process.
> 
> [1] Especially with the Iron Chef Exmerge-Roger Seielstad 
> add-on module
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:06 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard
> 
> 
> Ok, so I give.  M$ was meant to convey Microsoft.  Is this 
> better - MS 
> Exchange Move Server Wizard?
> 
> I've been reading this column for the last year now.  I knew 
> to expect the 
> sarcasm, but I was also hoping to benefit from your global wisdom.
> 
> Thanks and Merry Christmas to all.
> 
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