Ok at the risk of having to flame again, I'll offer a forward looking view.

Yes, 32k is the current limit.  No, we don't want MS to invest in changing
that code.  What do we want?

The rules engine should be more than just a message routing PEP (policy
enforcement point).  It should also be the interface for all communications
user controlled flow control, or policies.  As we install a variety of
extensions to Exchange, it becomes threaded into the overall communications
environment.  There are two components of some concern: the MCU and the
voice server.

The MCU provides real time streaming session aggregation for multi-party
calls, whether they are voice, data, video or some combination of two or all
three.  The Exchange product MCU is the Conference Server, but in a VoIP
world, you do not want two or more MCU systems.  The voice conferencing
bridge function of your VoIP telephone system and the data conferencing
system (T-120 style data sharing) should be one system, not two.  This is
important, because it is unlikely that IP telephone planning and messaging
system planning are being done by the same people in the typical enterprise.
This will lead to a show down and a lot of rework at some point.  But, the
interfaces to the rules engine (Outlook, OWA, and voice/DMTF) should be able
to exercise any controls on the conference server (auto-accept is a good
example).

The voice server (sometimes called a UM/UC server) introduces additional
message flow controls and the opportunity to control rules via a dial-up
interface.  When serving as the voice mail interface to a VoIP system, it
provides several rules type of functions such as extended absence.  But, it
can also provide a front-end to the switch controls, such as auto-forward
and ring-now answer instructions.

In this more rich world of rules, you don't want the rules cache to be in
either the message server or the voice server.  You want them to be in a
cache that is an accessory to the switch.  Think about this.

Right now, in a telephone system you set an out of office rule in the voice
server, but it does not get processed until after a ring-no answer auto
forward series of steps has been accomplished and the message server gets a
chance to process the call.  This is exactly backward.  Rules should be
processed before the switch attempts to disposition the connection request.

What we want Microsoft to do is to redesign the rules in Exchange to be
DEN/CIM objects, and to make storage requests for each rule based on the
system component that is going to provide the PEP service for that
particular rule.  Then we want all of the servers to hand off their user
interfaces for the aggregated rules engines to Exchange Server, and for the
server to present this to all possible user interfaces (MAPI, web pump,
DTMF, etc.).  Yes of course we need more than 32k of rules storage, but not
for the current system  It must be for a fully DEN/CIM aware rules engine.

Now that would be worth investing some Exchange team development time in
producing.  The rest would just be noise and more of yesterday's "less than
WinRules capable junk."

-----Original Message-----
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 2:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange 5.5 rules


32KB of rules is the absolute limit.  I'd suggest that you send a message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] if you would like this changed.

Missy Koslosky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Esgro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:31 PM
Subject: Exchange 5.5 rules


Does anybody know what the limitations are to the amount of rules one can
have for a mailbox. I have a user that gets an error message when creating a
rule. After disabling another rule, the new rule will work. It appears to me
that there is a limitation to the amount of rules one mailbox can have. Am I
correct? If so what is the limit? Thanks All.


Ed

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