Thanks Glen...Good point

but can Diskeeper do a good job to try to defrag an " on line " exchange
server ?

Not all ex server have their database on a stand alone partition or disk.
Sometime this list is like MS exam, we're supposed everyone are dealing with
10 servers, 2000 users etc ;-)

A lot of my ex customer often end up with files on the same partition as the
edb files.. .And my few SBS 2000 customer are worse.

Then I was really wondering if Diskeeper can do a good job when
defragmenting an online Ex 2000 server (external fragmentation of the
database....The file itself split everywhere on the partition )

JF
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn Corbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: Diskeeper and Exchange the final word ?


> Daniel,
>
> Correct as always, however.
>
> You can shut down the exchange services (which obviously affects Exchange
> availability) and perform a Diskeeper defrag on the volumes if the
exchange
> databases are shared with other files. This will organise the files in a
> contiguous manner, including the Exchange databases, but will not touch
the
> internal content of the files. The problem that can arise with this is
that
> as the exchange databases start to grow, they will immediately become
> "externally" fragmented, i.e. multiple file segments, as opposed to
> "internally" fragmented - what the exchange defrag process fixes.
>
> Glenn
>
> BTW, rightly or wrongly, not everyone has the luxury of storing the
Exchange
> DB's on their own spindles.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel Chenault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:11 AM
> Subject: Re: Diskeeper and Exchange the final word ?
>
>
> > Let's get this straight once and for all...
> >
> > Diskeeper does a file-level defrag of the hard-drive. It does not touch
> what
> > is inside the files, just gathers the fragments together.
> >
> > Exchange databases do get fragmented, but _internally_ to their
structure.
> > Diskeeper will not touch that fragmentation.
> >
> > The Exchange database files are open; Diskeeper will try very hard to
move
> > them anyway, chewing up clock cycles and dragging down performance.
> >
> > And since your EDB files are on their own spindle with nothing else
there
> > (that IS how you're configured, right?) the file itself will always be
> > contiguous; nothing to defrag.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jean-Francois Bourdeau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 5:14 PM
> > Subject: Diskeeper and Exchange the final word ?
> >
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Can Diskeeper defrag an exchange server or not ?
> > >
> > > Must we exlude or not the exchange database Folder ?
> > >
> > > I heard opposites answers to that... From MS and from IT's also
> > >
> > > I would like to install Diskeeper on my next installation and was
> > wondering
> > > if it can help the server running faster, if I must exlude the ex
> database
> > > etc
> > >
> > > JF
> > >
> > >
> > >
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