Bill,

Now I understand the "Webshield[1] Lite" comment. I got the same spiel from
them as well wanting me to go to the e500 web appliance. The one thing that
I saw that it did offer that the WebshieldSMTP product did not offer was
that it could scan webmail based mail such as Hotmail, Yahoo, etc.

As for the traffic from your Groupwise associate, does it come in through
the IMS or via a different connector? If it doesn't come in via the IMS
Webshield will not see it. I also see what you mean by embedded attachments.
I guess I don't have that problem since I block .eml and .msg attachments.

The WAV files should be getting blocked. I have not been finding that any
are getting by.


[1] Chris Scharff may be right about NAI after all. When I did a spell check
on Webshield it suggested "Weaseled".

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
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Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-----Original Message-----
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:58 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: gen. AV software(s) Q' int/ext blk/no blk attachments

Ok....Ive been running the webshield for about a year or so now, got the
patch in too.
so for instance "My better half" (the less eval half) is on a Groupwise
system. If she sends me an attachment or better if she forwards me something
that has an attachment. It will get through. A call I made to NAI basically
was confirmed on this and some other talked which to me indicted
confirmation that WS is very light weight (it works, I like it, I know how
far I can trust it, it's better then nothing). 

WS does not scan into nested attachments in the GW case I would see her
forward, the attachment would be in a msg format that I could open and then
see the orginal attachment which could be anything! Lot's of other things
get by due to this.
I se a lot of WAV files get nabbed at the GS451 on the exch box cuz WS
missed it.

Now the GS451 on the exch box get's it, but due to the fact that it was
nested attachment WS missed it. 

I beat up the phone tech pretty good on this. And What I feel I got
was..well..if you need something better..... You should use our Webshield
Appliance.....
OK well that was my answer from them..ok...I get it...

bill

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: gen. AV software(s) Q' int/ext blk/no blk attachments


Really, I just sent a test to mine and it blocked it.

An email for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  (CC to '_') from <powellk> with the
subject line Link Test has broken a Content Filter rule. The email has been
blocked.(from user SYSTEM running WebShield 4.5 MR1a '_')

I am not sure what you mean by the FULL version. If you have TVD, Total
Virus Defense suite or AVD, Active Virus Defense suite you have a full no
holds barred product. My filter is simply blocking *.lnk attachments.

Also, I do not know what you mean by "nested" attachments.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-----Original Message-----
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:22 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: gen. AV software(s) Q' int/ext blk/no blk attachments

Thx

I talked to NAI the other day about this and GS451 will not do it.
They said the GS5 will not either.

Yes I too run the websheild(included with TVD..I have no idea about the full
version)  on a box prior to my exch55 server.
But it misses a lot of attachments. It is not capable of scan nested
attachments etc.
OK on the virus.. poor on attachment blocking.

I was just hoping maybe someone out there was do somethign similar with
another product. As I am up on my contract with NAI...and am unsure if I
will stay with it.

thx
bill

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: gen. AV software(s) Q' int/ext blk/no blk attachments


I am not sure that 4.51 will do this. Groupshield 5.0 may, I will have to
check. We currently use Webshield to handle the blocking of the internal
attachments much as David Cook said that he does with MailMarshal.

It appears that this may be yet another case of how woefully inadequate
Groupshield is when compared to anything else.

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-----Original Message-----
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:48 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: gen. AV software(s) Q' int/ext blk/no blk attachments

Can anyone tell me if any of the AV software(s) used by any of you for
Exchange
have the ability to selectively allow attachments in the system

In other words I want internal people to be able to send  LNK's(links) for
things for the internal network. BUT I do not want any incoming e-mail via
IMS w/attachments with say LNK to make it in.

Ex. Ive got GS451 on Exch55sp4 and it's set to block all LNK attachments.
Unfortunately it blocks them internally also; and it's a bit of a pain when
I want to e-mail a new Link to my users. NAI as no way to mod GS451 to allow
selective internal/external blocking type stuff. Looks like GS451 goes into
the IS and not say just interacting with the IMS.

any ideas would be appreciated

FYI: Exch55sp4 on NT4sp6a

Hey..You in the back row.... stop laughing at the GS451...it finally works
"normally" after 6 call's to tech support ;-)

thx
bill



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