All I can suggest is turning up the logging, based on the error message I
believe you'll find their mail server is the one doing the rejecting though.
If you know these blokes, you might want to let them know they're missing a
PTR for that a record as well.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 1:14 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Does this mean what I think it means
> 
> to 62.190.181.66 (smtp.foodbrokers.co.uk)
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 1:39 PM
> Subject: RE: Does this mean what I think it means
> 
> 
> > And where, on that connections tab do you have the mail being sent?
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 12:02 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Re: Does this mean what I think it means
> > >
> > > for the foodbrokers.co.uk address it is not going through the
> interscan
> > > smtp
> > > box as I added that custom email domain setting on the connections tab
> of
> > > my
> > > imc. Normally yes, though.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 12:41 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Does this mean what I think it means
> > >
> > >
> > > > 220
> > > >
> > >
> ***************************************************22*****2002***********0
> > > *0
> > > > 0 ****************
> > > >
> > > > Above is the SMTP 'banner' I get when I connect to their mail
> server...
> > > It's
> > > > indicative of a Pix with the mail fixup protocol enabled. Is all of
> your
> > > > SMTP traffic set to forward to the interscan box? I wouldn't have
> > > thought
> > > > that based on the error message.
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 11:36 AM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: Re: Does this mean what I think it means
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually my session ends after a timeout after I send the MAIL
> > > > > FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> command.
> > > > > BUT I get this exact same behavior for another address
> (SUPERVALU.COM)
> > > > > that
> > > > > I am getting 550's from. Only these 550's are being generated by
> my
> > > > > Interscan SMTP box and not the Exchange Server's IMC as with
> > > > > foodbrokers.co.uk.
> > > > > With that one I can go to their SMTP server and get the 250 OK
> after
> > > > > submitting the RCPT TO: info.
> > > > >
> > > > > How did you know there was a PIX involved? I always see lots of
> > > messages
> > > > > on
> > > > > the list regarding settings on the PIX interfering with mail. Is
> this
> > > a
> > > > > two-way problem or only a hassle to the incoming mail server?
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 12:29 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: Does this mean what I think it means
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > If you're getting that far with smtp.foodbroker.co.uk you're
> doing
> > > > > better
> > > > > > than me[1]. It doesn't necessarily mean that the user exists,
> but
> > > does
> > > > > mean
> > > > > > that the server didn't reject the message during the SMTP
> > > conversation
> > > > > as
> > > > > > one would expect during based on the error message reported:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > MSEXCH:IMS:KAO:AJC:KAO-AJC-WEB2 3550 (000B09AA) 550
> > > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You might try turning up protocol logging on the IMS and
> resending
> > > the
> > > > > > message to see exactly what machine is rejecting the message.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > []1 fscking pix.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 11:19 AM
> > > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Does this mean what I think it means
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One more thought then . . .
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What would you say it means when I get that message (550) but
> if
> I
> > > > > connect
> > > > > > > to that server, port 25 via telnet and submit a RCPT
> > > > > > > TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and I get back a 250 OK? That
> means
> > > the
> > > > > user
> > > > > > > does exist doesnt it??
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 11:26 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: Does this mean what I think it means
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The message is never received by the recipient's server, but
> > > instead
> > > > > > > > rejected during the transmission of the message.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:24 AM
> > > > > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Does this mean what I think it means
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks Chris. I guess what threw me was that when this
> happens
> > > any
> > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > time the message is from the recipient SMTP server and I
> dont
> > > see
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > mentioned in this NDR anywhere. Just my server's info . .
> .
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 11:03 AM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Does this mean what I think it means
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It's reporting what the receiving server told it. You
> can
> > > test
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > > > > the methods described in RFC821 referenced last week as
> an
> > > > > essential
> > > > > > > > > tool
> > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > a mail admin's toolbox.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 9:55 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Does this mean what I think it means
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Would you guys and gals take this to mean my Exchange
> > > Server
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > treating
> > > > > > > > > > > this external address as internal?
> > > > > > > > > > > I have added it to the IMC > Connections > Specify by
> > > Email
> > > > > Domain
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I usually add domains here I cannot resolve for
> delivery
> > > by
> > > > > using
> > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > ISP's
> > > > > > > > > > > DNS servers. It doesnt happen often but I just look up
> > > their
> > > > > mx
> > > > > > > record
> > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > another DNS server and add the address of their MX
> record.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > However, with this one I always get this in return:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Your message did not reach some or all of the intended
> > > > > recipients.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: TEST Message
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: 7/22/2002 10:35 AM
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 7/22/2002 10:35 AM
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The recipient name is not recognized
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a=
> > > > > > > > > > > ;p=KAO;l=AJC-MAIL1-020722143516Z-1150
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > MSEXCH:IMS:KAO:AJC:KAO-AJC-WEB2 3550 (000B09AA) 550
> > > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > And since the user not found is being returned by my
> > > server
> > > > > KAO-
> > > > > > > AJC-
> > > > > > > > > WEB2
> > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > am assuming it thinks this is an internal address . .
> .
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I am trying to send to:  foodbrokers.co.uk
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Ideas? TIA!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
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