local delivery delivers a message to users on the server it was sent from?
correct?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 12:52 PM
Subject: RE: Help stopping local delivery


> > Original question:
> > > Does anyone know how to preempt local delivery?
> > > If the server isn't authoratative for a domain I don't want it
accepting
> > > local deliver if there happens to be an smtp address defined for one
of
> > the
> > > exchange user.
> > > If the exchange server is authoritative for exch.mydomain.com, then,
> > fine,
> > > local delivery is ok.
> > > If user Joe has an exch.mydomain.com and has a second smtp address
> > defined
> > > of [EMAIL PROTECTED], I want mail sent from user Fred on exch.mydomain.com
to
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] to actually route off the exchange server to the
> > authoritative
> > > server for joe.com (which is not the exchange server).  Right now it
> > does
> > > local delivery by default.  Even specifying a smart host doesn not
> > preempt
> > > this local delivery.
> > >
> > > ?  Heelp pleeease...
> >
> > oh, see, I"m sorry, I thought that just telling you that they were
logging
> > on & sending mail from their exchange server would imply it is a mail
> > server.  My mistake if that wasn't so "obvious" to you.
>
> You'd be surprised the number of people who try to use Exchange for a
> 'calendaring server' or 'groupware server' sans e-mail. I've seen it a
> number of times in a number of different variants, in a number of forums.
> Perhaps it would have been a bit more obvious if you'd adequately detailed
> your use case.
>
> > All mail sent to "mydomain.com" goes a specific route.  The MX records
run
> > it through a machine that does filtering before doing final delivery to
> > the
> > unix machine with the mailboxes.
>
> You've now restated this generality 3 times. It means no more to me now
than
> it did the other 2 times. All mail sent to my domain follows a "specific
> route" too, but it doesn't require non-local delivery. What /specifically/
> does this unix machine do with regards to filtering?
>
> >  There are 5000+ mailboxes here.  Not all
> > of them are going to be using exchange mail server, most will likely
stay
> > on
> > this unix server.
>
> Ah, see your 5,000 users aren't using the Exchange server for mail.
> Apparently that's not so obvious to you.
>
> >For those who opt to use the added functionality of
> > exchange (serverside mail, owa, public folders, calendaring, etc) their
> > mail
> > will be forwarded from the unix machine to the exchange server.
>
> So, some of your users are on Exchange and some are on a foreign mail
> system? Or all of your users have Exchange accounts and only some of them
> use it for mail?
>
> >Reasons
> > for
> > this 1) ease of maintenance (believe it or not, yes, the forward, though
> > inefficient under most circumstances is the most efficient way in ours)
>
> I'll choose not refrain from believing or not until you elaborate.
>
> >2)
> > boss said so.
>
> Boss said so what? You still have not properly defined the problem and the
> scope of the issue. If I decide to use Exchange and I send myself a mail
> message, why does it need to route through the unix box before it arrives
in
> my inbox?
>
> > After some headaches I've got the reply to address changed,
>
> Why does it need to be changed?
>
> >
> however, to do
> > so I have to create alternate smtp addresses on the exchange server of
> > mydomain.com.  Mail sent to "mydomain.com" should go to the MX record &
> > does
> > for any address that doesn't have an associated address on the exchange
> > server.  If they do, it does local delivery.  Which makes perfect sense,
> > I'd
> > have set it up that way as well, it's more efficient in general.
However,
> > it's not logically necessary for mail to be delivered locally, so I
would
> > think there is a way to override it.
>
> Why would a mail server not deliver mail to a recipient it is responsible
> for, but instead forward it to another mail server?
>
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