good design can get it to not deliver to the machine it was sent from?  Can
you explain that?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 1:26 PM
Subject: RE: Help stopping local delivery


> In a manner of speaking, yes. Can that be prevented? Yes.
>
> Option 1: Good design.
> Option 2: Programming.
>
> Since option 1 seems to be out of the question, I'll happily offer to bid
on
> option 2.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wendy Reetz
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Sent: 8/9/2002 11:59 AM
> Subject: Re: Help stopping local delivery
>
> local delivery delivers a message to users on the server it was sent
> from?
> correct?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 12:52 PM
> Subject: RE: Help stopping local delivery
>
>
> > > Original question:
> > > > Does anyone know how to preempt local delivery?
> > > > If the server isn't authoratative for a domain I don't want it
> accepting
> > > > local deliver if there happens to be an smtp address defined for
> one
> of
> > > the
> > > > exchange user.
> > > > If the exchange server is authoritative for exch.mydomain.com,
> then,
> > > fine,
> > > > local delivery is ok.
> > > > If user Joe has an exch.mydomain.com and has a second smtp address
> > > defined
> > > > of [EMAIL PROTECTED], I want mail sent from user Fred on
> exch.mydomain.com
> to
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] to actually route off the exchange server to the
> > > authoritative
> > > > server for joe.com (which is not the exchange server).  Right now
> it
> > > does
> > > > local delivery by default.  Even specifying a smart host doesn not
> > > preempt
> > > > this local delivery.
> > > >
> > > > ?  Heelp pleeease...
> > >
> > > oh, see, I"m sorry, I thought that just telling you that they were
> logging
> > > on & sending mail from their exchange server would imply it is a
> mail
> > > server.  My mistake if that wasn't so "obvious" to you.
> >
> > You'd be surprised the number of people who try to use Exchange for a
> > 'calendaring server' or 'groupware server' sans e-mail. I've seen it a
> > number of times in a number of different variants, in a number of
> forums.
> > Perhaps it would have been a bit more obvious if you'd adequately
> detailed
> > your use case.
> >
> > > All mail sent to "mydomain.com" goes a specific route.  The MX
> records
> run
> > > it through a machine that does filtering before doing final delivery
> to
> > > the
> > > unix machine with the mailboxes.
> >
> > You've now restated this generality 3 times. It means no more to me
> now
> than
> > it did the other 2 times. All mail sent to my domain follows a
> "specific
> > route" too, but it doesn't require non-local delivery. What
> /specifically/
> > does this unix machine do with regards to filtering?
> >
> > >  There are 5000+ mailboxes here.  Not all
> > > of them are going to be using exchange mail server, most will likely
> stay
> > > on
> > > this unix server.
> >
> > Ah, see your 5,000 users aren't using the Exchange server for mail.
> > Apparently that's not so obvious to you.
> >
> > >For those who opt to use the added functionality of
> > > exchange (serverside mail, owa, public folders, calendaring, etc)
> their
> > > mail
> > > will be forwarded from the unix machine to the exchange server.
> >
> > So, some of your users are on Exchange and some are on a foreign mail
> > system? Or all of your users have Exchange accounts and only some of
> them
> > use it for mail?
> >
> > >Reasons
> > > for
> > > this 1) ease of maintenance (believe it or not, yes, the forward,
> though
> > > inefficient under most circumstances is the most efficient way in
> ours)
> >
> > I'll choose not refrain from believing or not until you elaborate.
> >
> > >2)
> > > boss said so.
> >
> > Boss said so what? You still have not properly defined the problem and
> the
> > scope of the issue. If I decide to use Exchange and I send myself a
> mail
> > message, why does it need to route through the unix box before it
> arrives
> in
> > my inbox?
> >
> > > After some headaches I've got the reply to address changed,
> >
> > Why does it need to be changed?
> >
> > >
> > however, to do
> > > so I have to create alternate smtp addresses on the exchange server
> of
> > > mydomain.com.  Mail sent to "mydomain.com" should go to the MX
> record &
> > > does
> > > for any address that doesn't have an associated address on the
> exchange
> > > server.  If they do, it does local delivery.  Which makes perfect
> sense,
> > > I'd
> > > have set it up that way as well, it's more efficient in general.
> However,
> > > it's not logically necessary for mail to be delivered locally, so I
> would
> > > think there is a way to override it.
> >
> > Why would a mail server not deliver mail to a recipient it is
> responsible
> > for, but instead forward it to another mail server?
>
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