I knew there was a reason I didn't want to work there.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of EXTERN Hlabse
Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1)
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 1:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Diskkeeper and Exchange- My experience


Well I once told Wal-Mart's (Exchange 5.5) Senior Exchange man that
defrag wasn't really necessary unless there where performance issues or
temp. disk space issues. Well he said that MS says run it so that's what
they do. I was interviewing for the job and he said anyone who doesn't
run Defrag on a regular maintenance is not following MS's recommendation
and is asking for problems. Well I argued a bit but then realized I lost
the job. My point is, if it makes you happy fine. But I would only use
for the two  fore mentioned reasons if your running Exchange 5.5

my 2 cents


-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 3:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Diskkeeper and Exchange- My experience


If you can look in your Event Viewer and see that the online 
defrag Exchange
does overnight will give you back 20-30GB of space, go for it.  Run the
eseutil /d utility.  But if you are only seeing MBs of space you would
regain, forget about it.  It's not worth the time nor is it worth the
resources needed to perform the task (Exchange Server must be 
offline; Users
will not have access to their mailboxes while you are 
performing this task;
you will have to watch the damn thing to make sure it doesn't error out
half-way through the process, and then have to kick it off again).  I
wouldn't take the chance unless I was gaining back something sizeable.

Just my .02�

Geoff.......


-----Original Message-----
From: James Liddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 4:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Diskkeeper and Exchange- My experience


As noted before I found my store.exe at 500,000 K this morning 
( An exchange
server for 25 people) and the CPU at 100%.  Restarting IS fixed 
the memory
usage but not the CPU usage.   So I killed DiskKeeper 7 which I 
had running
in "smart schedule" mode.  But it took me a few hours to figure 
that it was
the process using all the CPU.  (It took me a bit of time to 
take a clear
look and not run around like a chicken with it's head cut off.  
And yes I
learned a thing or two). So then read a bit and e-mailed exec. Software.
They indicate that I should not have to exclude any files from 
the DK defrag
process and that they had no further info on what could have 
happened. And
they also indicate that I should run an offline defrag of 
exchange using DK
once a month or so.  Of course I asked for data to support this 
suggestion
as it seems many folks here never use the exchange offline defrag.

Jim Liddil  

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