Although some of these replies sound a bit rude to you, I would still consider some of them to the point. Really.. how would you install/maintain the usage of RBL if you don't even know what it means.. How would you be able to decide which one to use..
At this point Chris Scharff is right.. a bit rude perhaps.. but right.. At some other points he was a bit rude too but I think he was right again..

He made me laugh.. I think you're taking it to serious to be an admin.. It's a hell of a job and humor is the only way to survive. For ppl who aren't admins some of the talk on this or any other list sounds rude.. but I guess it's not that bad at all. Or perhaps I'm just working in this field to long to know how ppl should talk to each other.

If the posting has something to do about pets then I'm using the "delete" button.. So even that button has a perpose :-)

Have fun,



B.

At 08:42 24-10-02 -0400, you wrote:
Absolutely - a reply with a link or just a single word is a wonderful
thing if it actually helps and folks should take some initiative on
their own.
I am only commenting on some of the posts that are downright rude and
uncalled for - the playful banter can be kind of interesting though.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: B. van Ouwerkerk [mailto:ouwerkerk92@;zonnet.nl]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 6:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: RBL's - Please Get over it

I don't think this or any other tech related list is hostile towards
newcomers. On Linux related lists (about 98% of all lists I'm subscribed

to) it's usually enough to tell what you did to solve your problem.
Explain
you did search the archives, used google, searched the M$ KB (for M$
related topics) and you really did what you could to find information.
Seriously, a question with detailed information and showing you did your

best to solve your problem is getting a better answer then one showing
you
didn't do a thing.
Remember.. it's mostly your problem and you search for help from other
admins who don't get any payment.
Nobody should feel offended if the answer is just a link to the
information
you're looking for.

Read the following information. It's written by a guy who codes on
Linux..
but this information is also interesting for others.
http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
I think I saw it in another reply too.

Just my EUR 0,02

Bye,



B.


At 01:34 24-10-02 -0400, you wrote:
>I too have enjoyed this list and have learned a lot from it but only
>after deleting the several hundred posts that are absolute drivel (kind
>of like the last 10 or so).
>I have only been subscribed for a little over a month and I am
>absolutely overwhelmed by the sheer number of posts that I simply have
>to ignore before I see one that actually answers a question. Its almost
>as bad as spam to be quite honest.
>Many of you seem to think that every answer has been answered and
>therefore every single person within a few hundred yards of an Exchange
>Server should already know that answer. You also seem to assume that
>every person subscribed to this list eats, breathes and farts Exchange
>Server - if it didn't sound like such a boring existence I would love
>that - unfortunately I also have to administer an entire network of
>other servers, switches, routers, firewalls, etc.
>I spend a great deal of time with TechNet and the Knowledgebase as well
>as their equivalents from other companies. I also read a lot of very
>thick (and very droll) books but quite often, I need to know something
>that isn't necessarily in a book or is explained in very limited or in
>poor detail by the vendor responsible. That is when I turn to these
>lists and hope to learn something from those of you who in the know and
>who are gracious enough to spend your time answering questions.
>I find it very unfortunate that some of you are so negative and hostile
>toward some of the questions posted here. If it is such a bother, then
>just stop - you can very easily unsubscribe and go on about your lives
>without having to worry about the rest of us. We will muddle through.
>I wish this post could have had some meaningful question that couldn't
>be answered by the great and powerful google.com or that it had
>contained an answer as worthy but I'm really getting tired of the
>bickering - please stop.

SNIPPING a low of stuff.


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