We have aliases set up so that all of them go into one mailbox. The
permissions on that mailbox are set so that several of us can all check it
with our accounts (either File->open other user's folder or set the profile
to "open these additional mailboxes")

Hunter

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:hummertc@;noghri.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 3:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: RBL's


I I'm guilty of not doing that. Or knowing to do that. I thought those
mails would just come to the administrator account. How do you go about
checking them? I can't seem to get outlook to check those boxes. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:bounce-exchange-97309@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Coleman, Hunter
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: RBL's


hostmaster@, postmaster@, and abuse@ all get checked daily. Sometimes
more frequently than that if there's nothing better to do ;)

-----Original Message-----
From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:jen@;fluke.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: RBL's


I'm thinking that someone does not check the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailbox.
;)

-----Original Message-----
From: Coleman, Hunter [mailto:hcoleman@;state.mt.us] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: RBL's


I'm thinking there's a connection between SPAMCop and George Custer :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: RBL's


Maybe someone had a bad experience in Montana?

We're monitoring the blocks pretty closely, and it seems so far that
they're not hitting legitimate traffic, yet.

------------------------------------------------------
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Coleman, Hunter [mailto:hcoleman@;state.mt.us]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:56 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: RBL's
> 
> 
> That was part of the problem...we went to the link on their
> site for our IP
> address, but no information was available on the specific 
> message. It just
> gave a date that showed when we were first blacklisted. We 
> spent about 2
> days trying to get additional information from them. They 
> finally sent us
> the header from the message. After tracking down the message 
> and sender, we
> came to the conclusion that it was a legitimate message (not 
> spam or UCE)
> and that the 30 or so recipients were all individuals that 
> the sender knew.
> We sent this information back to SPAMCop, where it apparently 
> sat in the bit
> bucket for 2 more days. They never disagreed with our opinion that the
> message wasn't spam, but finally de-listed us. Really 
> frustrating, all in
> all.
> 
> Hunter Coleman
> State of Montana
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 8:08 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: RBL's
> 
> 
> Perzactly - and in general they display the specific email
> message(s) that
> won you the honor of being on their list.
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams@;gettyimages.com]
> > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 7:22 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: RBL's
> > 
> > 
> > I'm surprised - I've never had any problems with SPAMCop.
> > We've had relay problems, which I was able to resolve to 
> > their satisfaction and get off their list within hours.  
> > We've also been reported as spammers (we send bulk email out 
> > to our own customers, with an unsub option - we still get 
> > reported now and then), and I've been able to get that 
> > resolved just as quickly.
> > 
> > At the very least, with SPAMCop, they *do* respond.
> > Osirusoft and SPEWS do not.
> > 
> > Darcy
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Parrett, Sue [mailto:sparrett@;state.mt.us]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 9:39 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: RBL's
> > 
> > 
> > From our experience, Spamcop.net is just as bad as any other
> > RBL.  They
> > blacklisted our domain erroneously for 8 days in August and a 
> > couple days in
> > Sept.  Numerous domains were unable to accept mail from us.  
> > We considered
> > their actions a "Denial of Service" and had to threaten them 
> > with legal
> > action to remove our domain name from their list. 
> > 
> > Sue Parrett
> > E-Mail Support Specialist
> > STATE OF MONTANA - DOA/ ITSD
> > (406) 444-1392
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 6:07 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: RBL's
> > 
> > 
> > More likely a combination of b) and a fundamental lack of
> > understanding of
> > how the RBL they have chosen works with regards to managing 
> > their black hole
> > lists. Purusal of the archives with regards to Mr. Schwartz 
> > and Dr. Cumming
> > about this time last year should provide some valuable 
> > insight to the issues
> > with RBLs in general.
> > 
> > That being said, I'm fairly impressed with the Spamcop.net
> RBL - they
> > provide documentation of their blocked senders via the web,
> > and are very
> > quick to retest and remove if the problem has been solved.
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> > Atlanta, GA
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:william@;techsanctuary.org]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:16 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: RBL's
> > > 
> > > 
> > > That's a little harsh. (I love it when you're harsh...)
> > > 
> > > Do you mean they are not aware of it, or they are unable to
> > comprehend
> > > its functionality?
> > > 
> > > William
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:bounce-exchange-104116@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Chris Scharff
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:49 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: RBL's
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 97.25% of mail admins are too stupid to understand what an
> > > RBL actually
> > > is/does. I for one hope they continue to rely on 3rd parties 
> > > to provide
> > > the
> > > functionality, otherwise I'll likely have to join you in 
> > > phoning stupid
> > > admins to tell them why RBL $foo is costing their company 
> business.
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Chris Scharff, MVP MCSE
> > > EMS Sales Engineer
> > > MessageOne
> > > 512.652.4500 x-244
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams@;gettyimages.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:42 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: RBL's
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Still 3rd party.  I was at a meeting at MS on Monday night
> > > > and the current stance on that is that they're "thinking 
> > > > about possibly" including RBL support in a future release.
> > > > 
> > > > Darcy
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Matt Natkin [mailto:mnatkin@;natco-inc.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:50 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RBL's
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hey does exchange 2k have a rbl feature or is this 3rd party?
> > > 
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