<Lawyer, Finance guy, whatever> IT only costs money. -----Original Message----- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
In theory I'm right at the top, but since the lawyers like to micromanage everything my actual decision-making authority is extremely limited. As a result to do much of anything I find myself in lengthy meetings with non-technical people who don't always view IT as a competitive advantage. -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:44 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > > Luckily in my company I am only one (two at the most) steps > away from the top so I don't have to play any real politics. > However being so close to the top means that anytime I sign > my name to some project or another, my butt is really on the line. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:44 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for > Send/Recieve on OXP > > > Doncha just love navigating the corporate waters? What a > hassle...and I > thought lawyers were bad. > > -Ben- > Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 > Director of Information Services > Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert > http://www.hawaiilawyer.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:38 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > Quack! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:40 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve > > on OXP > > > > > > Maybe you can try to convene a meeting with him and the links in > > between? Or maybe you can present your idea to your boss and make it > > seem like it was > > his idea. ("Hey boss, do you think it would work if we put all those > > graphics files on an secured web page that our remote users > could just > > synchronize in the off hours?") Then he can be a hero > > without having to do > > any actual thinking. :) > > > > -Ben- > > Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 > > Director of Information Services > > Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert > > http://www.hawaiilawyer.com > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:36 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > > > Actually the CIO is the most reasonable to work with. The only > > > thing is he likes the chain of command format. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 4:36 PM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > > > Would it be career suicide to go over their heads to the CIO > > > directly; or is there nobody higher up who would > understand/act upon > > > your recommendations? > > > > > > -Ben- > > > Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 > > > Director of Information Services > > > Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:33 AM > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > > > > > Its because the people that are between me and the CIO > are wimps. > > > > Sorry. If I had it my way a lot of things would be > > > different here. I > > > > make plenty of arguments they just ignore me. But think > > of the job > > > > Market and how weak it is for us right now. > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > Alex Gonzalez > > > > Senior Systems Administrator (unfotunatly) Handleman Company > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 4:24 PM > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > > > > > Well... Uh...how can I say this without being seen as rude > > > or flaming? > > > > Hmm... Well, there is no way to say it. > > > > > > > > You are the _Senior_ Systems Administrator. Take control. > > > Are you not > > > > responsible for the efficient and continued operation of > > > this network? > > > > Can > > > > you not make a successful argument that misuse of it costs > > > the company > > > > money, both real and in lost availability? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:09 PM > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for > > > Send/Recieve on > > > > OXP > > > > > > > > > > > > That my friend is a long standing battle. We have people > > > that think > > > > its ok to send out 30meg files to these people. > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > Alex Gonzalez > > > > Senior Systems Administrator > > > > Handleman Company > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:59 PM > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > > > > > I guess the point is that if they are sending these massive > > > images and > > > > all they are doing is printing a comp on an ink jet to show > > > the store > > > > manager, the problem isn't an email or bandwidth issue > at all, but > > > > rather a user issue with the imaging folk. They need to > be taught > > > > these people don't need these massive files. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:58 PM > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for > > > Send/Recieve on > > > > OXP > > > > > > > > > > > > Honestly Martin I have no idea. I think they print them > > > off and show > > > > them to the store manager. I don't really know > everything those > > > > people do. > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > Alex Gonzalez > > > > Senior Systems Administrator > > > > Handleman Company > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:52 PM > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > > > > > What does the receiver do with these images? Are they sent to a > > > > printer, or are they just FYI, or what? > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:46 PM > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for > > > Send/Recieve on > > > > OXP > > > > > > > > > > > > Well its mainly pictures of what displays are going to > be in the > > > > store. Some > > > > of these files used to be Gig sized but our advertising > > > department has > > > > shrunk them down quite a bit. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:41 PM > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > > > > > <thinking outside the box> > > > > > > > > What is this 2M file? Does it have to be 2M? Is it > generic for all > > > > users, specific to a region, specific to one user? > > Specific to one > > > > store, group of stores, or what? There may be another way > > > to do this. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for > > > Send/Recieve on > > > > OXP > > > > > > > > > > > > Both. Home offices all over the place. We are a music > > distributor. > > > > These people are the ones that stock the shelves at your > > local Kmart > > > > or Walmart with music. They are in the store all day > > long stocking > > > > shelves so they don't have connectivity. > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > Alex Gonzalez > > > > Senior Systems Administrator > > > > Handleman Company > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:14 PM > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > > > > > Who sends them all this stuff? Is it the home office, > or is it a > > > > number of people all over the place? > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:05 PM > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for > > > Send/Recieve on > > > > OXP > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually they don't check their email all day. They just > > > download the > > > > days mail and read that till the next day. We are trying > > > to implement > > > > wireless cards so that they can always check mail. Right > > > now its too > > > > inconsistent for our reps. They stock CD's at stores and > > > there is too > > > > much RF in many for it to work. Plus there isn't enough 3G > > > coverage > > > > yet nationally. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:58 PM > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > > > > > Lets see 800 users 40 incoming lines. Assume each person > > checks his > > > > email 8 times a day and stays on for 20 minutes. Twenty > > people per > > > > line. There are 3600 minutes in a day. Eight accesses, > > times twenty > > > > people, times 20 minutes per call comes out to 3200. Wow I > > > would like > > > > to see that phone bill. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM > > > > Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for > > > Send/Recieve on > > > > OXP > > > > > > > > > > > > > Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how > > > I ought to > > > > be > > > > > doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions > > > > with gusto > > > > and > > > > > aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined > > > to engage in > > > > silly > > > > > banter or name calling. > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:13 PM > > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > > > > > > > > > Wow.....Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me > > > something > > > > > > new :) > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > > > > Gonzalez, > > > > > > Alex > > > > > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:07 AM > > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > > > Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for > > > > Send/Recieve > > > > > > on OXP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see > > > > what isn't > > > > > > > > > > technical about this question. It wasn't a question of > > > what our > > > > > > people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't > > > > have to do > > > > > > as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit > > > > the nail on > > > > > > > > > > the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non > > > technical > > > > > > problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize > > > > if I didn't > > > > > > give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and > > > > receive large > > > > > > emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. > > > > When they > > > > > > go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours > > > > for all the > > > > > > mail to download. The company doesn't want them > > > billing for the > > > > > > time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting > > > for it to > > > > > > download. They would rather schedule it at night and > > > > just have the > > > > > > rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As > > > > far as the > > > > > > > > > > question goes here is a refresher: > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in > > > > Outlook XP > > > > > > that I could create a scheduled task that would open > > > Outlook and > > > > > > perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is > > there any > > > > > > third party software that would do this. Remember this > > > > is Outlook > > > > > > XP and the security is different. > > > > > > > > > > > > All you had to do was post back if you knew something. > > > You don't > > > > > > have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or > > > asleep is > > > > > > irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of > > > > anything. Maybe > > > > > > you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. > > > All I am > > > > > > looking for is something like "Outlook /sendreceive" > > > > (obviously that > > > > > > > > > > isn't it or I wouldn't be posting this), so that I > > > could put the > > > > > > switch in the scheduled task to run Outlook.exe, setup > > > Outlook to > > > > > > dial if there is no connection, run a send/receive, and > > > > be done with > > > > > > > > > > it. Or if there was a third party app that would do > > > this for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:51 PM > > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, 287677 might work as well depending on what the > > > > actual problem > > > > > > > > > > to be solved is, but apparently this isn't the week for > > > properly > > > > > > phrased technical questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:45 AM > > > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I had that, I would have noticed that he wants a > > scheduled > > > > > > > execution of the F5 key, and would have kept my mouth > > > shut. Or > > > > > > > perhaps suggested using the sendkeys thingy off > the resource > > > > kit > > > > > > > (win2000 i think). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q259103 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Posted At: > > > > > > > Monday, November 25, 2002 11:34 AM Posted To: MSExchange > > > > > > Mailing List > > > > > > > Conversation: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for > > > > > > Send/Recieve on > > > > > > > OXP > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for > > > > > > Send/Recieve on > > > > > > > OXP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I did, however, ask Santa for the thingy that will read > > > > > > email to me in > > > > > > > my sleep. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Tom Meunier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > 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