Why is that bad?  Oracle is probably pricey for 150 people, but the
product isn't bad (Oracle9i).

William
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

We have 150 IT people.  You wanna know the worst part????  We are
looking into Oracle.  Nuff said.


-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 4:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Luckily in my company I am only one (two at the most) steps away  from
the
top so I don't have to play any real politics.
However being so close to the top means that anytime I sign my name to
some
project or another, my butt is really on the line.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on
OXP


Doncha just love navigating the corporate waters?  What a hassle...and I
thought lawyers were bad.

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:38 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Quack!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:40 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for
> Send/Recieve on OXP
> 
> 
> Maybe you can try to convene a meeting with him and the links
> in between? Or
> maybe you can present your idea to your boss and make it seem 
> like it was
> his idea. ("Hey boss, do you think it would work if we put all those
> graphics files on an secured web page that our remote users could just
> synchronize in the off hours?")  Then he can be a hero 
> without having to do
> any actual thinking. :)
> 
> -Ben-
> Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
> Director of Information Services
> Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
> http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
> >  
> >  
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:36 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > 
> > Actually the CIO is the most reasonable to work with.  The only 
> > thing is he likes the chain of command format.
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 4:36 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > 
> > Would it be career suicide to go over their heads to the CIO 
> > directly; or is there nobody higher up who would understand/act upon

> > your recommendations?
> > 
> > -Ben-
> > Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
> > Director of Information Services
> > Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
> > http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
> > >  
> > >  
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:33 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > 
> > > Its because the people that are between me and the CIO are wimps.
> > > Sorry. If I had it my way a lot of things would be
> > different here. I
> > > make plenty of arguments they just ignore me.  But think
> of the job
> > > Market and how weak it is for us right now.
> > > 
> > > Thank you,
> > >  
> > > Alex Gonzalez
> > > Senior Systems Administrator (unfotunatly) Handleman Company 
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 4:24 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > 
> > > Well... Uh...how can I say this without being seen as rude
> > or flaming?
> > > Hmm... Well, there is no way to say it.
> > > 
> > > You are the _Senior_ Systems Administrator. Take control.
> > Are you not
> > > responsible for the efficient and continued operation of
> > this network?
> > > Can
> > > you not make a successful argument that misuse of it costs
> > the company
> > > money, both real and in lost availability?
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:09 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for
> > Send/Recieve on
> > > OXP
> > > 
> > > 
> > > That my friend is a long standing battle.  We have people
> > that think
> > > its ok to send out 30meg files to these people.
> > > 
> > > Thank you,
> > >  
> > > Alex Gonzalez
> > > Senior Systems Administrator
> > > Handleman Company
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:59 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > 
> > > I guess the point is that if they are sending these massive
> > images and
> > > all they are doing is printing a comp on an ink jet to show
> > the store
> > > manager, the problem isn't an email or bandwidth issue at all, but

> > > rather a user issue with the imaging folk. They need to be taught 
> > > these people don't need these massive files.
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:58 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for
> > Send/Recieve on
> > > OXP


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