Nah - I'm a completely non-technical pr!ck. 

Or as another sysadmin here has been known to say - technology misapplied.

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Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 10:57 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Securing the OWA Kiosk
> 
> 
>  
> Ah... a technical solution for a behavioral problem.  There sure are
> lots of those.
> 
> William 
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger
> Seielstad
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 7:10 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> We have plenty of people who would ditch Outlook entirely in that
> scenario -
> even AT their desks. Not gonna happen on my watch.
> 
> Not to mention, sooner or later they'd get really pissed having to use
> the
> SecurID keyfob to log into their email.
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 9:44 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Securing the OWA Kiosk
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > You're such an email nazi.  ;o)
> > 
> > I used to use OWA when away from my desk elsewhere in the office. 
> > 
> > William
> >  
> >  
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger
> > Seielstad
> > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 5:44 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > 
> > I don't support OWA via VPN - if you're VPN'ed in, use 
> > Outlook. In fact,
> > I've IP-limited OWA to external users only. We provide Outlook for a
> > reason
> > - we expect it to be used.
> > 
> > As I said before, we do secure OWA with a multi-factor one time use
> > authentication system (RSA's SecurID) which works well.
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> > Atlanta, GA
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Martin, Jon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:38 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Securing the OWA Kiosk
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Mark,
> > > 
> > > Thanks - interesting audit. If we decide to go forward with 
> > > allowing non-VPN
> > > clients access to Outlook we will take a closer look at the 
> > > product. Is
> > > anyone aware of similar products?
> > > 
> > > A question for the group on a related topic: is it common 
> > > practice to allow
> > > non-VPN clients to access Outlook via OWA, or do most 
> > > companies require at
> > > least a VPN connection?
> > > 
> > > Jon
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mark Rotman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 9:52 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Securing the OWA Kiosk
> > > 
> > > Jon,
> > > 
> > > You could have a look at this OWA audit for some more 
> > > details. Be aware that
> > > the document is useful, but the issues in it (as well as 
> > your #1) are
> > > handled by Messageware's SecureLogoff product.
> > > 
> > > http://www.messageware.net/audits/owa.html
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Martin, Jon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 3:22 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Securing the OWA Kiosk
> > > 
> > > 
> > > How are folks handling the following potential security risks 
> > > using OWA from
> > > unsecured workstations, such as a kiosk or library environment?
> > > 
> > > 1. Cached web pages, etc. on the workstation. User walks 
> > away without
> > > closing the browser, the next user has access to the previous 
> > > users' email.
> > > 
> > > 2. Stealth keyboard capture program grabs userids and passwords.
> > > 
> > > It seems like there is a common train of thought about remote 
> > > OWA that 'It
> > > is only email, what is the worst that could happen?' My take 
> > > is someone who
> > > has unauthorized access to email can potentially:
> > > 
> > > -       Get people fired;
> > > -       Get people arrested;
> > > -       Get companies/people sued;
> > > -       Cost companies/people money.
> > > 
> > > Thanks . . .
> > > 
> > > Jon Martin
> > > Systems Programmer
> > > East Bay Municipal Utility District (EBMUD)
> > > Oakland, CA
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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