Don't sell yourself short. You're a technical pr!ck. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Technical Consultant hp Services "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 5:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Securing the OWA Kiosk Nah - I'm a completely non-technical pr!ck. Or as another sysadmin here has been known to say - technology misapplied. ------------------------------------------------------ Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA > -----Original Message----- > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 10:57 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Securing the OWA Kiosk > > > > Ah... a technical solution for a behavioral problem. There sure are > lots of those. > > William > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger > Seielstad > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 7:10 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > > We have plenty of people who would ditch Outlook entirely in that > scenario - even AT their desks. Not gonna happen on my watch. > > Not to mention, sooner or later they'd get really pissed having to use > the SecurID keyfob to log into their email. > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE > Sr. Systems Administrator > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity > Atlanta, GA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 9:44 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Securing the OWA Kiosk > > > > > > > > You're such an email nazi. ;o) > > > > I used to use OWA when away from my desk elsewhere in the office. > > > > William > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger > > Seielstad > > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 5:44 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > I don't support OWA via VPN - if you're VPN'ed in, use Outlook. In > > fact, I've IP-limited OWA to external users only. We provide Outlook > > for a reason > > - we expect it to be used. > > > > As I said before, we do secure OWA with a multi-factor one time use > > authentication system (RSA's SecurID) which works well. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE > > Sr. Systems Administrator > > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity > > Atlanta, GA > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Martin, Jon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:38 PM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Securing the OWA Kiosk > > > > > > > > > Mark, > > > > > > Thanks - interesting audit. If we decide to go forward with > > > allowing non-VPN clients access to Outlook we will take a closer > > > look at the product. Is > > > anyone aware of similar products? > > > > > > A question for the group on a related topic: is it common practice > > > to allow non-VPN clients to access Outlook via OWA, or do most > > > companies require at > > > least a VPN connection? > > > > > > Jon > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mark Rotman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 9:52 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Securing the OWA Kiosk > > > > > > Jon, > > > > > > You could have a look at this OWA audit for some more details. Be > > > aware that the document is useful, but the issues in it (as well > > > as > > your #1) are > > > handled by Messageware's SecureLogoff product. > > > > > > http://www.messageware.net/audits/owa.html > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Martin, Jon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 3:22 PM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: Securing the OWA Kiosk > > > > > > > > > How are folks handling the following potential security risks > > > using OWA from unsecured workstations, such as a kiosk or library > > > environment? > > > > > > 1. Cached web pages, etc. on the workstation. User walks > > away without > > > closing the browser, the next user has access to the previous > > > users' email. > > > > > > 2. Stealth keyboard capture program grabs userids and passwords. > > > > > > It seems like there is a common train of thought about remote OWA > > > that 'It is only email, what is the worst that could happen?' My > > > take is someone who > > > has unauthorized access to email can potentially: > > > > > > - Get people fired; > > > - Get people arrested; > > > - Get companies/people sued; > > > - Cost companies/people money. > > > > > > Thanks . . . > > > > > > Jon Martin > > > Systems Programmer > > > East Bay Municipal Utility District (EBMUD) > > > Oakland, CA > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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