I always tell my wife to get the phone, she's my MX record. Of course if I keep that up, she may soon be an EX record.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dupler, Craig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 12:48 PM Subject: RE: "How do I explain NDRs" Question > I don't think that the telephone analogy will explain multiple relay > hosts/delivery path options nor MX records. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 3:24 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: "How do I explain NDRs" Question > > > Telephone analogy again..... > > Once the phone connection is complete, then you might still talk English at > one end, and try to talk to someone who only understands Russian at the > other end. > > This type of "fully connected but of no use at all" can be used to explain > the problems with the different layers in the network model, or the > difference between SMTP and X.400 when sending e-mail. > > Cheers, Chris > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 07 January 2003 04:48 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: "How do I explain NDRs" Question > > > I've seen some that talk into the receiver and listen to the > transmitter. > > Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP > Technical Consultant > hp Services > "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems." > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:40 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: "How do I explain NDRs" Question > > > I have seen some non-technical types that like to send telephones flying > across the office and smashing into the wall. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:29 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: "How do I explain NDRs" Question > > > A nickels worth from the peanut gallery. > > I have found that a phone number analogy works quite well with the > Non-Technical. They can associate with a wrong number, and number not > in service, and circuit overloads (all phones lines busy), it's a > picture they understand quite well. Plus it is very easy to draw the > picture using non-technical terms. > > Best of luck > Scott > We may be in an E-Mail world, but phonology seems to be an instinctive > trait in humans yet. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 9:45 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: "How do I explain NDRs" Question > > I did a delete of the thread and then thought that perhaps the data > should be expanded. > > But, note that the comments including Daniel's were right on. > > > Explaining how mail delivery works to non-experts is not easy. It > involves explaining address resolution both within NT domains and in the > DNS world. It also involves explaining the role of relay hosts and any > address rewriting that is going on. For most people, words are not > going to cut it. > > Years ago our Exchange team faced the same problem and developed a > system of very simple charts that show a check list of each system or > handshake that has to occur, and then a separate chart explaining > exactly how each one works, packet by packet. They called these happy > charts. Now admittedly, even these are not telling the truth, in that > the role of caches in the switches and routers is left out, and it is > assumed that things like DNS resolution actually hit the DNS servers > every time, but that's a level of complexity (or honesty) that is not > really necessary to get your points across. I think you would do well > to draw your happy charts. They will make explaining the shorthand a > lot easier. > > My hesitation in mentioning this stems from the fact that it is in the > archives maybe a dozen times, but periodic repetition is not a bad thing > I guess. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
