No kidding. Until you have sat in a room with 10 MVP's and some MS development people, you have no idea.
Martin Blackstone Microsoft MVP. Mmmmm MVP -----Original Message----- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 6:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Shortcuts to Outlook objects lol Thanks for the good laugh. I have found that the harshest critics of Microsoft products are the MVPS themselves. Andy David Microsoft MVP. There, is that better? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Deckler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 9:05 AM Subject: RE: Shortcuts to Outlook objects > My point is that it serves no useful purpose to cast aspersions as to > people's attitudes and motivations because everyone is biased in one > way or another. > > I believe that this is really systemic with regards to the problems of > the IT industry as a whole. The entire industry is vendor and tool > focused and that is a huge problem in IT. It tends to polarize people > such that everyone is grouped into two categories, people that hate a > particular vendor or tool and people that love a particular vendor or > tool. This is just plain stupid. > > The IT industry has some fundamental problems. Microsoft, as part of > that industry suffers from some of the same problems as well as some > of their own unique deficiencies. Novell has their own unique issues, > so does IBM and so does every other vendor in this space. But it seems > that you cannot point out these deficiencies without people > categorizing and stereotyping you in one way or another. I reject > that. > > I hate all vendors of software tools equally. I find this an absolute > requirement to provide true, unbiased consulting services. If you were > to follow my posts on a GroupWise board or a Notes board, you would > see me make similar arguments regarding the deficiencies of their > products and company. However, since I make most of my revenue from > Microsoft products and Exchange, I tend to be more active in that > area. > > And the other thing that REALLY chaps me is people that cast > aspersions on others without fessing up to their own biases. MVP's are > the worst of this lot. They secretly get direct compensation from > Microsoft and then try to pass themselves off as unbiased. But you > look at their posts and it is obvious that they are simply paid > advocates for Microsoft and part of their responsibility is to vilify > anyone that says anything negative with regards to Microsoft. And > these are the same people that list every last certification and other > acronym that they can paste onto the end of their sig, but you never > see Microsoft MVP. I wonder why? Microsoft asked me to become an MVP > and I told them to go jump in a lake. More people need to take this > approach and be true consultants, not advocates. > > > Are you saying that your own interpretation of your own attitude is > > unbiased? Or that your own evaluation of whether or not your > > paranioa about how Microsoft are out to get you is unbiased? > > > > Rob > > Also an MVP by the way. > > Want to throw some mud at me too? > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20 > > > Sent: 07 February 2003 11:43 > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Shortcuts to Outlook objects > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > And Ed, if I am not mistaken, you are also a Microsoft MVP,=20 so > > >whose interpretation is unbiased, mine or yours? =20 > > > > I continue to believe my interpretation of your attitude is > > > >more=20 accurate than your defense thereof. =20 > > > > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I > > > > Tech Consultant > > > > hp Services > > > > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
