And Ed, if I am not mistaken, you are also a Microsoft MVP, so whose
interpretation is unbiased, mine or yours?

> I continue to believe my interpretation of your attitude is more
> accurate than your defense thereof.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
> Tech Consultant
> hp Services
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 5:04 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Shortcuts to Outlook objects
> 
> 
> Well, that was how I took it as well, but he was just doing such a
> terrible job at it that it was really more just stupid than funny or
> anything else. I mean, if you are going to go down that path, then make
> it funny or at least mildly humorous versus coming out of left field
> with a DOS reference. Yes, you want to take the argument to the extreme
> to prove a point, but you cannot do it in such a way that your point
> comes across as invalid.
> 
> I could just as easily argue the other side and point out how much fun
> it would be if every hotfix or service pack caused some major component
> of the OS to change drastically. Let's say that every hotfix from
> Microsoft changed the way printers were configured such that you had to
> go out and reconfigure all of the printers on everyone's desktop every
> time you applied a hotfix.
> 
> And I hardly think that I am the biggest Microsoft basher on the planet.
> They have fundamental flaws in their products and the way that they
> operate as a company. I point out those flaws when I see them. That's
> it. However, in some circles, any complaint against Microsoft, no matter
> how insignificant, is deemed heresy. He's probably one of those
> Microsoft MVP's anyway, so he's on their payroll to be a bigot.
> 
> > I think I get his point, and you don't, so I'll explain it to you.  
> > It's that every time you perceive that something doesn't work, Greg, 
> > you paint it as a giant Microsoft crusade to ruin your life.
> > 
> > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
> > Tech Consultant
> > hp Services
> > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff
> > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 7:15 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Shortcuts to Outlook objects
> > 
> > 
> > My point was that this is the straw that breaks the camels back. First
> 
> > my application written for DOS 3.22 stops working on Windows X, then 
> > they change core OS functionality like the ability to create an 
> > Outlook:// shortcut on the desktop. I say it's time to switch to Linux
> 
> > and Samsung Contact. Screw Microsoft and their poor, very poor 
> > backwards compatibility.
> > 
> > On 2/6/03 7:00, "Greg Deckler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > What exactly is your point in all of this? To be honest, I can't 
> > follow any line of reasoning or an actual point to this post. You seem
> 
> > to be complaining a lot about something, but I am not sure exactly 
> > what it is.
> > 
> > There's lots of sarcasm in the post, which seems to be a substitute 
> > for actual substance.
> > 
> > > My DOS application worked under Windows 2000 server, but now doesn't
> > > under
> > 
> > > XP. How is that any different than something working under Outlook 
> > > 97 and not under Outlook 2002[1]? Hell, there's functionality that 
> > > worked in Outlook 2000 that was stripped out in Outlook 2000 SR1. 
> > > Damn that
> > Microsoft!
> > > Bastards the whole lot of 'em. Stripping out core OS functionality
> > > like
> > > Outlook object hyperlinks. Ye gods, that's more critical than
> > preemptive
> > > multi-tasking!
> > > 
> > > Next thing you know they'll want us all to upgrade to Exchange 2000
> > > and
> > use
> > > these uniquely addressable hyperlink thingies and webdav. When will
> > > they
> > > learn that 640k is enough RAM for anyone? 
> > > 
> > > I have no idea what if any syntax will work for your Outlook://
> > > hyperlinks
> > 
> > > Greg, but thanks for the entertainment. I'd test, but I don't 
> > > exactly use Outlook 2002 any longer.
> > > 
> > > [1] Counts on fingers.. Outlook 97, Outlook 98, Outlook 98, Outlook
> > > 2000,
> > > Outlook 2001, Outlook 2002... Six. Yep, only six versions. What were
> > they
> > > thinking?[2]
> > > [2] There wasn't a similar hyperlink syntax for the Exchange client
> > was
> > > there? Cause then I'd really be mad at them for changing things
> > TWICE!!!
> > > 
> > > On 2/5/03 18:42, "Greg Deckler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > First, I've already seen that Q-article. Still cannot get it to link
> 
> > > correctly to an Excel file in Public Folder Favorites. I guess I'll
> > just
> > > have to keep trying different combinations until I hit the magic
> > syntax
> > > that makes it work, if it is even possible.
> > > 
> > > Second, it is completely different. Last time I checked, I could 
> > > still
> > 
> > > pop
> > 
> > > out to a command prompt and enter "\temp\picture.gif" or "notepad 
> > > c:\temp\file.txt" and I can look at a file. This is equivalent.
> > > 
> > > Backwards compatibility between an OS that has seen 6 or 7 version
> > > changes
> > 
> > > and an OS that has seen 1 version change are completely different
> > > things.
> > > In addition, one is a matter of supporting third-party applications
> > and
> > > this is a matter of supporting core OS functionality. You cannot 
> > > blame
> > 
> > > them for not providing backwards compatibility for applications
> > written to
> > 
> > > an OS eons ago but to not provide compatibility for a core OS 
> > > function
> > 
> > > of
> > > only a year or two ago is sad.
> > > 
> > > > KB 296071 and no it's not that different.
> > > > 
> > > > On 2/5/03 16:36, "Greg Deckler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > That is a far cry from something that worked in Windows 2000 and
> > Outlook
> > > 
> > > > > 2000 to Windows XP and Outlook 2002. We're talking basic URL
> > > functionality
> > > > > here.
> > > > > 
> > > > >> Right, I'm still pissed my DOS 3.2 applications don't run on
> > > > >> Windows
> > > XP.
> > > > >> Bastards!
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> On 2/5/03 15:57, "Greg Deckler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Well, if you put in the "< >", XP wants to add an "http://"; in
> > > > >> front
> > of
> > > 
> > > > it.
> > > > >> If you do not put that in, it just creates the shortcut, but 
> > > > >> then
> > 
> > > > >> it
> > > > >> throws up an error message saying that Outlook cannot open the
> > folder
> > 
> > > or
> > > > >> file. I even tried to "~" as suggested by Slipstick. No luck.
> > > > >> Stupid.
> > I
> > > 
> > > > >> hate it when Microsoft puts things into their product and then
> > > > >> strips
> > 
> > > out
> > > > >> functionality or significantly changes things to the point that
> > > > >> stuff
> > 
> > > > does
> > > > >> not work. Poor, very poor, backwards compatibility.
> > 
> > 
> > 
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