It very well could, yes.  Messages retain the internal X.500-type
addressing, and unless you take care to ensure that these addresses are
preserved in the new organization, you will likely have reply problems.
Just another of the reasons I cite for a "green field" migration being a
burdensome process.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bennett, Joshua
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 1:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migration Scenario


If we export everyone's mail to a PST and re-import onto the new server
will this still cause issues with replying to old emails? I know I will
lose SIS but I am only moving 150 users total. As far as PF's, they are
the main reason I am looking to go this route. I have almost 3000 PF's
from the old system that I don't want anywhere near the new system. Half
of these are orphaned (the old Mail Admin didn't have a clue) from Ex
5.5 servers that where decommissioned servers from offices being shut
down.

It is easier, in my opinion, to go the route I am planning then to try
and clean up the old junk (which there is an insurmountable amount of).
I am just looking for any issues with this scenario that I may be
overlooking.

The SMTP addresses of each user will remain the same as our domain is
still going to be cotelligent.com. So I don't see how this will break
the "Reply" on old email that is imported.

Again, I thank you all in advance for your help.

Josh
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 9:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

And PF Permissions, custom permissions on folders (similar to delegate
permissions Tristan mentioned), replying to old e-mails, modifying
reoccurring meeting requests, synchronization of OST files, downloading
of OAB files, etc. Green Field migrations are nice when you can get
them, but there's a non-trivial level of work involved if one wants to
make it transparent to users. Sometimes it's worth the effort to make
that happen though.

On 2/18/03 8:12, "Tristan Gayford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




You also need to think about the outlook delegates, single instance
storage as well as the support calls (I don't know your IT level and
numbers of
users) when they can't logon. Also I think that the workload for you is
probably more than the benefits (if there are any to have in reality)
that a

sensibly planned and executed migration. 

Tris 

---------------------------------------------
Tristan Gayford
Deputy Systems & Network Manager
Cranfield University at Silsoe 




-----Original Message-----
From: Bennett, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 February 2003 13:58
To: Exchange Discussions 

How is this method overly burdensome for end-users. All they will have
to do, if my testing has been correct, is change their Outlook profile
to point

at the new server. 


 
-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 2:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions 

While it is a fine tool for directory integration, I don't think LDSU is
the

complete answer to any migration.  For example, it does not move mail. 

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T 


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jacob Jeong
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 10:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migration Scenario 


LDSU (from HP/Compaq and I have worked with someone who wrote that
program....it will do pretty much everything when it comes to import and
export....) might be the answer for all of your questions.  It will cost
you

but not that much. 


Jake 


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 5:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migration Scenario 

I wouldn't propose that I know enough about what you're doing to make a
recommendation. 

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T 


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nuzman
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 2:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Migration Scenario 


Ed, 

For Exchange I agree with you. How about a Novell 4.11 to AD migration? 
That one I'm doing clean. 

Norris 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Crowley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: Migration Scenario 


> I seldom believe a "fresh start" is worth the extra effort required of

> end users to deal with it.  I believe it's usually easier to delete
> the legacy junk you don't want to keep, something you should have been

> doing all along through normal maintenenace.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bennett, 
> Joshua 
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:26 PM 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: Migration Scenario 
> 
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> Just wanted to bounce my plan for migrating from Ex 5.5 to 2000 to get

> some feedback.
> 
> I plan to bring up AD and EX2000 totally separate of the existing
> production NT4/Ex5.5 multi-master domain structure (we are slimming 
> down from 8 NT domains to 1 AD Forest w/ 1 domain). I plan so migrate 
> the NT user accounts SID history and mail-enable all the new AD 
> accounts. I then plan to disable the IMC in Ex5.5 and export all the 
> users mailboxes to PST files and re-import them to their new Ex2K 
> mailboxes. The same will be done for all PF that we will carry 
> forward. 
> 
> I am thinking along these lines because I feel that an ADC will import

> too much old legacy junk that we don't want on the new mail system.
> 
> Am I missing any gotcha's here? Does what I propose to do sound
> feasible? 
> 
> Thanks in advance for any an all advice offered.
> 
> Josh Bennett
> Exchange Admin\Systems Engineer 
> Cotelligent, Inc. 
> 401 Parkway Drive 
> Broomall, PA. 19008 
> 610-359-5929 
> www.cotelligent.com 
> 
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