If the policy is as you stated: "no email past a certain date or find
another job"

Then just report the offenders to Human Resources so that they can get
started.

Which was Ed's suggestion... It sounds like management has already issued a
directive, and simply need to be notified that there are offenders which
need either Warnings or Enforcement.

Glenn Sullivan, MCSE+I  MCDBA
David Clark Company Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 1:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I need a mailbox manager config tip


Yes, I know that but I have been given an email policy handed down from
corporate that says no email past a certain date or find another job. I did
not make the policy I just have to enforce it.

Thank You,
Robert Williams
Senior Network Administrator
Raypak, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone - 805-278-5363



-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I need a mailbox manager config tip


The fix would be to "clean up" Contacts as any other folder.  However, the
side effects are undesirable.  I'm happy you think I'm funny but my
suggestion is serious.

Let me put it this way.  If your users are going through all this trouble to
avoid having their mail cleaned up, then doesn't that perhaps suggest that
your policy is wrong-headed?  Policies that cause users to behave
dysfunctionally just to get their jobs done don't make a whole lot of sense.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Robert Williams
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I need a mailbox manager config tip


Ed, I know you are being funny but I would like help with this....

Let me re describe my problem if a person creates a "mail" folder under
their "Contacts" folder how am I supposed to configure mailbox manager to
clean it out? I have exempted IPM.contact to avoid deleting their contacts
and I have other folders checked in the aging box.....so why does it bypass
the folder?

Thank You,
Robert Williams
Senior Network Administrator
Raypak, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone - 805-278-5363



-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I need a mailbox manager config tip


It can be fixed.  Tell management to issue a directive and punish the
offenders.  That ought to fix it.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Robert Williams
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I need a mailbox manager config tip


Yeah I know that but I have been asked by upper management to see if this
can be fixed.

Thank You,
Robert Williams
Senior Network Administrator
Raypak, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone - 805-278-5363



-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I need a mailbox manager config tip


What you're doing wrong is expecting a computer to babysit your employees.

There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Robert Williams
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 5:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: I need a mailbox manager config tip


I am running mailbox manager for 5.5 sp4 but have noticed that people are
hiding mail in subfolders under their contacts folder, therefore my rules
are not catching that.  I am excluding ipm.contact from my scans to avoid
contacts from being deleted and I have other folders checked as folders to
scan so what am I doing wrong?


Thank You,
Robert Williams
Senior Network Administrator
Raypak, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone - 805-278-5363


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