Ahh right, so brick level backups albeit by Veritas or Arcserve is a bad
idea anyway? Shame we have spent so much on Arcserve already, I wont
recommend exchange agents and Veritas Backup then!

So item retention is the way to go then.  Let me think, this will allow
me to restore files for a duration I set when setting up this retention
(I assume?).  That will have deleted files covered, the next scenario
would be that the server crashes, I will only be wanting to do a full
restore in this case.


Okay, one last scenario, we have a leaver and we delete there mailbox
from the server, then someone says "oh can you get it back".  I guess
the best policy for this is to put leavers on a 5 day standby.

I think that pretty much covers all events, and could be a better and
cheaper alternative.  Also a reason for them to give me more hard disk
space in my servers ;)

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 02 June 2003 18:10
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive

The only way you can restore a single mailbox, as you described, is to
have Brick Level Backups turned on.  Before you say, "Great", please
consider this.

When you run BLB's you do so by opening EVERY SINGLE EMAIL BOX to back
them up.  Not only is this time consuming, but is a great resource hog
as well, and really quite un-necessary.

Instead of using BLB's to correct user-errors such as deleting their
whole inbox, you should implement Item Retention, and correct user
permissions on public folders.  Don't allow your users to delete ANY
Public Folder, this way, you won't ever have to recreate it when they do
this "accidentally".

To achieve Item Retention, go to www.microsoft.com and do a lookup in
the Knowledge Base for ITEM RETENTION.  There are more then enough Q
Articles there to explain how to set this up.



Hth,

Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194


-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive


I was looking into the built in backup and noticed Exchange Options.
Though I could not see anyway of selectively restoring only one mailbox
via this method, or public folder using this backup?

Is there a way of choosing which mailboxes you do and don't want to
restore using the built in backup?  When I try to expand the "Microsoft
Exchange" tab it asks me which server do I want to query.  I give it
one, but the box never becomes un-greyed, the exchange server is local
to where I am trying to run Microsoft Backup.

The option for "Microsoft Exchange Server" is available and I can choose
the server I want, but like I said previously this does not seem to
allow for selective restore/backup on a per mailbox scale.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 02 June 2003 17:48
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive

Ouch.  Don't.  Everything I've read says that this will be the seventh
sign that brings about Armageddon.

Use NTBackup on your Exchange 2000 Server to backup to a file, then
backup that file to tape using Arcserve.

Steven
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Steven Dickenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Network Administrator
The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backing up the M Drive


I honestly have come to conclusion today that my arcserve backups would
be a lot better off backing up the M drive, and not using the Exchange
Agent at all.


Does anyone else get this feeling ?

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