Guessing by those rules, @ew01.com

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Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 10:05 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Message Filtering
> 
> 
> Jim,
> 
> Thanks for the book reference.  I will run out and get it.
> 
> I was trying to block Neena [EMAIL PROTECTED], and I 
> used ew01.com
> and that didn't block it.  According to the rules, how would you have
> blocked this junk mail?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mike 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 11:37 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Message Filtering
> 
> 
> Roger,
> 
> I posted this earlier in the thread...maybe you missed it:
> 
> Paul Robichaux's "Managing MS Exchange Server", Chapter 8, pg 
> 294, bottom of
> the page:
> 
> @foe.com - reject mail from foe.com or any subdomain
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - reject mail from foe.com, but not a.foe.com
> 
> So Nate's response was spot on.
> 
> Jim Blunt
> E-mail Admin
> Network Infrastructure Group 
> Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 8:07 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Message Filtering
> 
> 
> Hmm - I have no problem with you saying it works that way 
> (haven't been able
> to try it) but that's not the way I would expect it to work - 
> I would expect
> it to be more restrictive in how it blocks, so @ivy.com only blocks
> @ivy.com.
> 
> That's pretty standard practice in other MTA's I've used over 
> the years,
> which is why it seems a little out of whack.
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:43 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Message Filtering
> > 
> > 
> > Then can you explain why I can enter @fr or @biz and the 
> server blocks
> > anything that ends with .fr or .biz.  Doesn't this qualify 
> as blocking 
> > any domain or subdomain that ends with these?  It seems to me
> > that it does.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > ----------
> > > From:     Roger Seielstad
> > > Reply To:         Exchange Discussions
> > > Sent:     Tuesday, August 26, 2003 9:34 AM
> > > To:       Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject:  RE: Message Filtering
> > > 
> > > Actually, that doesn't support what you're saying.
> > > 
> > > "To prevent all users in a specific domain from delivering
> > messages to
> > > your
> > > site, type the domain name in the following format: 
> @domainname.com"
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Ivy.com and mail.ivy.com are two, distinct domains, and
> > therefore blocking
> > > @ivy.com should not implicitly block @mail.ivy.com.
> > > 
> > > I'd be interested to know that it blocks subdomains that it is not
> > > explicitly told to block, though. That's quite a bug.
> > > 
> > > Roger
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > > Inovis Inc.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:14 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: Message Filtering
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Check out Q245465 for Exchange 5.5.  It backs up what I said 
> > > > earlier.  I have used this successfully on the Exchange 
> 5.5 setups 
> > > > I
> > have managed.
> > > > 
> > > > Nate Couch
> > > > EDS messaging
> > > > > ----------
> > > > > From:         Roger Seielstad
> > > > > Reply To:     Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Sent:         Tuesday, August 26, 2003 6:14 AM
> > > > > To:   Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject:      RE: Message Filtering
> > > > > 
> > > > > You'd have to block it as 'ivy.net', not '@ivy.net'
> > > > > 
> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > > > > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > > > > Inovis Inc.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 7:31 PM
> > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Message Filtering
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > My understanding of reading through the help file is that
> > > > if you block
> > > > > > @ivy.net all of the subdomains are blocked as well.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 3:35 PM
> > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Message Filtering
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Two stars (**) would be an overkill
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 4:24 PM
> > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Message Filtering
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Nate,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I don't understand what you are saying?  I know I can block 
> > > > > > full domains
> > > > > > (@yahoo.com) but what I want is to block @**.ivy.net for
> > > > > > @01.ivy.net and
> > > > > > @02.ivy.net
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > You see the suffix is .ivy.net but the prefix is 01 
> and 02...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Mike
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 2:18 PM
> > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Message Filtering
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > You can wildcard your filters for domains.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On the IMS under Message Filtering you can enter
> > domains using the
> > > > > >     
> > > > > >     @domain.com (.net, etc.)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > You can filter a whole country in a similar fashion by using
> > > > > >     
> > > > > >     @fr (for France)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > For example.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Regards.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Nate Couch
> > > > > > EDS Messaging
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > ----------
> > > > > > > From:     Mitchell Mike
> > > > > > > Reply To:         Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > > Sent:     Monday, August 25, 2003 1:50 PM
> > > > > > > To:       Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > > Subject:  Message Filtering
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Outlook 98 Exchange 5.5 Windows 2000
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Is there any way to use a wildcard when doing messaging
> > > > > > filtering on
> > > > > > > Exchange 5.5 Admin? (Connections, IMS, 
> Connections, message
> > > > > > filtering)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > We are trying to filter eMAIL using this feature and there
> > > > > > are several
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > domains that are the same except for a few characters.
> > > > What is the
> > > > > > > limit of number
> > > > > > > of sites you can block?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Mike Mitchell
> > > > > > > Systems email Administrator
> > > > > > > Alverno Information Services
> > > > > > > * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > *:(317) 783-9341 EXT. 6211
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > "Education is when you read the fine print, experience is
> > > > > > what you get
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > when you don't!" - Pete Seeger
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
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